Eeeek....police?

Billy_Bullocks

Rotor wrote: »

It's not an offence to use your phone in a car - it's an offence to make a phone call.(not 'hands free')

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/howaboutthat/6350399/Jimmy-Carr-cleared-of-using-mobile-while-driving.html

It's an offence to use a hand held mobile telephone.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/section/41D

Car_54

Billy_Bullocks wrote: »

It's an offence to use a hand held mobile telephone.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/section/41D

Indeed, and there is no case law to provide a definition of "use".

Jimmy Carr's case (where a high-profile lawyer seemed to bamboozle the magistrates) did not set a precedent.

AdrianC

Billy_Bullocks wrote: »

It's an offence to use a hand held mobile telephone.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/section/41D

"...or other hand-held interactive communication device...", explicitly including internet access and text messaging, even if it's not actually being used for communication at the time.

So fiddling with the satnav or traffic app? Definitely within.

sun-n-moon

I got the 2/3 thirds from chatting to a Traffic officer who the next day was the only traffic car on the whole stretch of the M62 in Yorkshire. Plus he was riding solo. My son has often been the only Response officer available to cover a very large area with a population of approx 220,000.

Billy_Bullocks

sun-n-moon wrote: »

I got the 2/3 thirds from chatting to a Traffic officer who the next day was the only traffic car on the whole stretch of the M62 in Yorkshire. Plus he was riding solo. My son has often been the only Response officer available to cover a very large area with a population of approx 220,000.

When you say available do you mean the only uncommitted officer or he books on duty and is the only one on the response shift?

sun-n-moon

Only mobile one available. Others on shift tied up with pages of reports due to an arrest etc. Off the top of my head, he tells me, a shift should be something like 26 officers but more often only 12 on duty. I can't quote official statistics, just straight from the horses mouth. I've been sat at home with him after his 10 hour shift and his phone has gone and been begged to go back in because they are desperate. He went in! I'd have told them where to go.

Billy_Bullocks

sun-n-moon wrote: »

Only mobile one available. Others on shift tied up with pages of reports due to an arrest etc. Off the top of my head, he tells me, a shift should be something like 26 officers but more often only 12 on duty. I can't quote official statistics, just straight from the horses mouth. I've been sat at home with him after his 10 hour shift and his phone has gone and been begged to go back in because they are desperate. He went in! I'd have told them where to go.

That's not unusual and happens almost every shift in every force. It's not quite the same as being the only one on duty.

sun-n-moon

Billy_Bullocks wrote: »

That's not unusual and happens almost every shift in every force. It's not quite the same as being the only one on duty.

Still the ony one available no matter which way you want to spin it. Not unusual? it's fine till you ring 999 whilst you are being stabbed and find the nearest copper is miles away trying ot sort out yet another drunken wife batterer. Or you are that copper who has to turn up alone to a pub to sort out a few fighting mad drunks. Still. Ok, as long as it's not unusual. Which is the point surely? It should not be, not unusual.

Billy_Bullocks

sun-n-moon wrote: »

Still the ony one available no matter which way you want to spin it. Not unusual? it's fine till you ring 999 whilst you are being stabbed and find the nearest copper is miles away trying ot sort out yet another drunken wife batterer. Or you are that copper who has to turn up alone to a pub to sort out a few fighting mad drunks. Still. Ok, as long as it's not unusual. Which is the point surely? It should not be, not unusual.

There's no need to put any spin on it. It's not unusual it's the norm, it's what Dave Cameron wanted and it's not going to change under Teresa May. And the drunken wife batterer is a priority over your needs in the current climate. Surely your son has told you that. Or is he too new to know any better?

sun-n-moon

Billy_Bullocks wrote: »

There's no need to put any spin on it. It's not unusual it's the norm, it's what Dave Cameron wanted and it's not going to change under Teresa May. And the drunken wife batterer is a priority over your needs in the current climate. Surely your son has told you that. Or is he too new to know any better?

You are a nastly little piece of work are'nt you? Ill mannered and illbred I presume. I think my, old school, middle aged 6'2" policeman son would be amused at being called new. I assume he knows better than both of us. Calling my son on a forum is crossing a line by the way. I assume you are a petty little internet troll sitting in your darkened room looking for a reaction. I am therefore filing you away under "petty little ignoramous to be ignored". Don't bother replying. Not listening.