Electric cars

sweetsand

dacouch said:

Mobeer wrote: »

Used electric cars have such terrible residuals I would be tempted, if I had anywhere to charge one. For the same reason I think buying a new one would be a very bad idea.

I charge mine at work, no congestion charge and free parking in Westminster (Which I use all of on a daily basis)

It works out well for me as I literally have no running costs

Hi
Some good info here. However, just like diesel cars, EG diesel was cheaper than eptrol until diesel cars took off thank to the help from the Gov. These freebies, sure enjoy them for now but I think you will agree they will go.

As you said in another post, "elec cars not for all" a good statement, IMHO

We have been reading up on electric cars and which have the best batteries, ie degeneration, etc.
We needed better batteries and once these cars really take off the price to charge them will go up big style and I'm not sure the national grid wil be able to manage regardless of what they say.

ATB

Stubod

The govt. will need to find a way to replace all the tax that is lost from petrol/diesel sales, so they will have to implement a new system to compensate before the majority of cars are electric powered.

Probably develop a system around miles traveled and apply the equivalent charge per mile..I..eg in the long term electric cars will not be significantly cheaper to run than petrol or diesel....IMHO 

sweetsand

Stubod said:

The govt. will need to find a way to replace all the tax that is lost from petrol/diesel sales, so they will have to implement a new system to compensate before the majority of cars are electric powered.

Probably develop a system around miles traveled and apply the equivalent charge per mile..I..eg in the long term electric cars will not be significantly cheaper to run than petrol or diesel....IMHO 

Perhaps the gov could consider taxing cars, road taxing cars by their RRP?  Therefore,  as now, cars costing more than 40 attact extra road tax for a few years even those buying a second hand car. Therefore, those that want to pay for bigger, better cars pay that bit extra and this will give the gov income wheter a person hardly drives the car or not.

onlyfoolsandparking

sweetsand said:

Stubod said:

The govt. will need to find a way to replace all the tax that is lost from petrol/diesel sales, so they will have to implement a new system to compensate before the majority of cars are electric powered.

Probably develop a system around miles traveled and apply the equivalent charge per mile..I..eg in the long term electric cars will not be significantly cheaper to run than petrol or diesel....IMHO 

Perhaps the gov could consider taxing cars, road taxing cars by their RRP?  Therefore,  as now, cars costing more than 40 attact extra road tax for a few years even those buying a second hand car. Therefore, those that want to pay for bigger, better cars pay that bit extra and this will give the gov income wheter a person hardly drives the car or not.

That is a phenomenal idea that only a 'seasoned philanthropist' could have come up with and I hope the Government implement it soon!

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sweetsand said:

Perhaps the gov could consider taxing cars, road taxing cars by their RRP?

If only we had some sort of tax that was a percentage of the purchase price of the item, payable when it is sold, we could set it at 20% or so, and the money could go to The Treasury.

In fact, we could even make it so retailers collect all the tax, box it up and send it to the treasury, then all the Government would have to do is check the figures every year (and spend the money....)

sweetsand

onlyfoolsandparking said:

sweetsand said:

Stubod said:

The govt. will need to find a way to replace all the tax that is lost from petrol/diesel sales, so they will have to implement a new system to compensate before the majority of cars are electric powered.

Probably develop a system around miles traveled and apply the equivalent charge per mile..I..eg in the long term electric cars will not be significantly cheaper to run than petrol or diesel....IMHO 

Perhaps the gov could consider taxing cars, road taxing cars by their RRP?  Therefore,  as now, cars costing more than 40 attact extra road tax for a few years even those buying a second hand car. Therefore, those that want to pay for bigger, better cars pay that bit extra and this will give the gov income wheter a person hardly drives the car or not.

That is a phenomenal idea that only a 'seasoned philanthropist' could have come up with and I hope the Government implement it soon!

Perhaps, we the members, some of us could initiate  a campaign for this. I love fairness and my proposal makes sense, if you want a bigger, more expensive, more luxurious car, then if one really wants that brand new or used, then they would be prepared to pay the extra. Cars IMHO re getting to big and two of our cars will hardly fit into some of the parking spaces. It's a pain that and the damage that can ensue from ignorant drivers smashing their car doors into parked cars so I take our little car the vw but no one really likes driving that so we try to go out when it is quiet and to places that have empty spaces and park away from the people in a hurry.
Thank you for complimenting my idea.
ATB
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Scrapit

I think we could also tax people on their income at the point where it gets paid. We could call it wages tax or something like that.

CocoM2020

What planet do they live on? I can’t believe this person is actually genuine! 

onlyfoolsandparking

sweetsand said:

onlyfoolsandparking said:

sweetsand said:

Stubod said:

The govt. will need to find a way to replace all the tax that is lost from petrol/diesel sales, so they will have to implement a new system to compensate before the majority of cars are electric powered.

Probably develop a system around miles traveled and apply the equivalent charge per mile..I..eg in the long term electric cars will not be significantly cheaper to run than petrol or diesel....IMHO 

Perhaps the gov could consider taxing cars, road taxing cars by their RRP?  Therefore,  as now, cars costing more than 40 attact extra road tax for a few years even those buying a second hand car. Therefore, those that want to pay for bigger, better cars pay that bit extra and this will give the gov income wheter a person hardly drives the car or not.

That is a phenomenal idea that only a 'seasoned philanthropist' could have come up with and I hope the Government implement it soon!

Perhaps, we the members, some of us could initiate  a campaign for this. I love fairness and my proposal makes sense, if you want a bigger, more expensive, more luxurious car, then if one really wants that brand new or used, then they would be prepared to pay the extra. Cars IMHO re getting to big and two of our cars will hardly fit into some of the parking spaces. It's a pain that and the damage that can ensue from ignorant drivers smashing their car doors into parked cars so I take our little car the vw but no one really likes driving that so we try to go out when it is quiet and to places that have empty spaces and park away from the people in a hurry.
Thank you for complimenting my idea.
ATB
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Start a campaign!!, Yet again you have come up with another phenomenal idea, you get it started and I am 100% sure other members on here will join in. Let us know as soon as you get the campaign up and running.

I know what you mean about doors being smashed into, you going out when it is quiet and to places that have empty parking spaces is another good idea, If it works then great, what I do is go out when it's really busy and park in only full car parks BUT!! (and here's a great tip for you too) I park that close to other cars that the doors can't be opened, that way NOBODY can smash their doors into my car. I have to get out via the boot but I find it's worth it to avoid the 'ignorant' drivers you talk of causing damage.
ATB 

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Scrapit said:

I think we could also tax people on their income at the point where it gets paid. We could call it wages tax or something like that.

Brilliant idea!

We could tax people when they earn money, and then we could tax them again if they spend what is left after the "wages tax".