Not Responding

Rubidium

Oldbiggles wrote: »

Hey! Guys.
I think an explanation is in order:
Nifty & bsod: At the end of last year my Packard Bell PC finally gave up the ghost and failed to even switch on. I decided to buy another @£350, ordered it and a printer before fully understanding the spec of the computer which I later realized didn't include speakers so I cancelled the delivery of the PC but kept the printer.
My Daughter said I could have her computer because which she never uses it as she now relies on her mobile phone.
So, the PC I'm now using is:
Fujisu Siemens Intel(R)
Pentium 4 CPU 3.6GHZ
2.37GHS 512MB of Ram.
Unfortunately, This one also runs Windows XP.

Since receiving your helpful advice I have now reinstalled Firefox (again) and again run ccleaner and system cleanup followed by a defrag.

The PC seems to be behaving a lot better now and I haven't had a "Not Responding" since.

If the problem returns I will have to look again at buying either a PC or a Laptop.

So once again I would like to thank you for your advice. You have all been very helpful.

:beer:

You have been given another old PC that is now only really fit for the skip and that is why your daughter no longer uses it. Yes it is a bit better than your old one but no where near the performance that you would get if you simply bought one of the solid well built ex business machines suggested by Nifty with WIN 7 Professional included. Don't be fooled into thinking that new is always better and if you insist on buying a new PC, then post the spec on here before wasting your money.

bsod

AndyPix wrote: »

the crux of it was you chomping at a non existent bit.

no, you just don't understand what the 'bit' was, neither does the other one, who is also prone to confirmation bias

NiftyDigits

bsod wrote: »

now you're trolling.

read the thread carefully before joining in. The crux of it was me trying to identify why a software error message was occurring, in order to provide a solution, like what normal people do. first suggestion:



Another poster (not you this time) chose to be critical of my attempt at help (which is fine until the insults started), because he was under the impression that the machine is physically incapable of browsing the internet without firefox producing a 'not responding' or 'unresponsive script' message. It turns out, he was wrong.

We all understand.

Remember that we were both under the impression that he was still running the Packard Bell.
In fact it was you who posted the specs. Remember?

The specs that you posted would likely produce the symptoms described.

In addition, I have no idea as to why you are taking the credit.

Your suggestions were "reinstall Firefox" and "check with Malwarebytes"

reinstall firefox.......Tried reinstalling Firefox already but it still runs very slow, often it also comes alive with "well this is embarrassing.......etc

and then banging on about the router etc.

So, perhaps you can tell us what actually worked, since you are bent on taking the credit? It certainly wasn't one of your suggestions.

....and yes, your behaviour has become Troll-like. What's up?

AndyPix

Awaits a massive edit to bsod's post .................

NiftyDigits

If anyone was wrong, it was you.

For suggesting the problem may have been with the router/Internet bandwidth.
For posting the wrong specs.
Reinstalling Firefox didn't help anyway.

The OP will be back soon and my advice will remain the same.

almillar

Without being an IT pro, running a speed test, or reinstalling Firefox, or argue with people over what I did or didn't ask for, I can tell OP that he doesn't have enough RAM (maybe mention that you've got a new computer in your first post!).
Now, you can find out the price of upgrading your RAM to 2GB, or preferably 4GB (IF your computer will take it) but I'll tell you before you bother, it's not worth your effort to research it, buy it, and fit it.
NiftyDigits has suggested a £50 odd computer, OP fears this may not much better - it will, with the guidance of the 'amateurs' here be much better. Or buy a new computer. Just don't waste any more time on the current one!

NiftyDigits

almillar wrote: »

Without being an IT pro, running a speed test, or reinstalling Firefox, or argue with people over what I did or didn't ask for, I can tell OP that he doesn't have enough RAM (maybe mention that you've got a new computer in your first post!).
Now, you can find out the price of upgrading your RAM to 2GB, or preferably 4GB (IF your computer will take it) but I'll tell you before you bother, it's not worth your effort to research it, buy it, and fit it.
NiftyDigits has suggested a £50 odd computer, OP fears this may not much better - it will, with the guidance of the 'amateurs' here be much better. Or buy a new computer. Just don't waste any more time on the current one!

It will be much better without any guidance from us. He'll wonder why he didn't do it years ago. Wonder why he sat waiting for the painfully slow combination of inadequate hardware to serve up the information requested. Sometimes failing to do it at all.
On the other hand, he might lose all of the patience he has built up over the years once he has a PC that responds promptly and allows him to multi-task.
Not stopping there, he may begin to punish himself for not doing it sooner, by kicking himself in the shins.
£55 for a PC with a 2nd Gen i3 and a one month warranty was quite good. Others agreed and now all 25 are gone.

Perhaps best to stick with the old PC than to find out what he has been missing all these years.

Seriously Oldbiggles it's not a good idea to wait until the machine fails before you consider replacing it.
You should be utilising the time to locate a bargain with the help of the money savers here, rather than panicking and buying expensive rubbish when you are desperate.
You already missed out on a proper bargain.. On paper, up to eight times more processing power than your current PC.
In other words, nothing like your current PC.

AndyPix

Id be willing to fit an SSD of course , however they are SFF business machines so no room for both unfortunately.
Even with the standard HDD though the difference would be like night and day to what the OP currently uses/suffers

NiftyDigits

^^

I agree. If you are selling at a similar price to the 790, the OP should go for it, even with a normal HDD.
The spec is good enough for years to come and they are less than five years old.

You can of course, with a little jiggery pokery, install 2 x 2.5" drives into the available space, but that's not a concern in this case, as the machine as it is will be a huge improvement on what he has now.

almillar

It will be much better without any guidance from us

All I meant by that was to let us help OP find a computer, instead of just walking into PC world and buying something that's not good value. But yes, I can't imagine being able to buy a WORSE computer.

Seriously Oldbiggles it's not a good idea to wait until the machine fails before you consider replacing it.

Oh yes - obviously, Oldbiggles, you DO back up don't you?!

If you want to buy from Andypix and keep everything above board, he could list the computer on eBay and you could bid on it. But I'd trust him. SSD might be overkill, but £100 would transform your computing experience.