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New 2017 road tax rules
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I purchased my car tax for the full year in November for £210.
If I had bought just six month's in November, it would have cost me £110.25 and then it would have cost me another £70 (or thereabouts) in May 2017 for the next 6 months. Total for the year would be about £180.
Paying 12 months' tax in advance has effectively cost me about £30 more than had I purchased it in two lots of 6 months.
Does anyone know if people in my situation will receive any sort of refund or is it just tough luck?0 -
I purchased my car tax for the full year in November for £210.
If I had bought just six month's in November, it would have cost me £110.25 and then it would have cost me another £70 (or thereabouts) in May 2017 for the next 6 months. Total for the year would be about £180.
Paying 12 months' tax in advance has effectively cost me about £30 more than had I purchased it in two lots of 6 months.
Does anyone know if people in my situation will receive any sort of refund or is it just tough luck?
It's for cars registered after March 2017.0 -
[FONT="]The road tax is changing from this April and it will shock you how much is going up....
Some cars will be cheaper over time under the new system, for example the Ford Mustang or Nissan 370Z.
e.g.
Ford Mustang V8 = 299g/km
Old system:
First year = £1120
Years 2-5 = 4 * £515
Five year total = £3180
New system
First Year = £2000
Years 2-5 = 4 * £140
Five year total = £25600 -
It's also still Vehicle Excise Duty not Road Tax which hasn't existed since 1937 when Winston Churchill abolished it. While the new VED is mooted to be used for new strategic road building, whether it will be or not is debatable
Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness:
People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.
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VED or Road Tax, whats the difference.
Renaming something doesn't change what it is, a device for taking a citizen's money.0 -
It's also still Vehicle Excise Duty not Road Tax which hasn't existed since 1937 when Winston Churchill abolished it. While the new VED is mooted to be used for new strategic road building, whether it will be or not is debatable
Since we're being pedantic, it has always been VED, but until 1937 it was paid into the "Road Fund". Churchhill (in 1926) abandoned the pretence of using the money on roads, but it wasn't formally abolished until 1937, by which time Churchhill was long out of government.0 -
gilbert_and_sullivan wrote: »VED or Road Tax, whats the difference.
Renaming something doesn't change what it is, a device for taking a citizen's money.
The issue is what it's there for. Road tax implies a tax on the use of the road, or a tax for the road but this doesn't happen at the moment.
VED is used as a tax on pollution (in theory used to help combat the CO2 emissions) and currently goes to the government like VAT or any other tax to do what they want with it. The new fund is meant to be a tax for road use (or was when Osbourne launched the changes)Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness:
People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.
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Since we're being pedantic, it has always been VED, but until 1937 it was paid into the "Road Fund". Churchhill (in 1926) abandoned the pretence of using the money on roads, but it wasn't formally abolished until 1937, by which time Churchhill was long out of government.
Yes and no. Yes it was always known as VED but at the time leading up to the abolishment it was known as The Road Fund, administered by the Road Board
The Road Fund was killed by Churchill in 1926 but it wasn't actually abolished in 1937, that was just the year the money had run out of the fund
Any which way, what we pay now (or have to register for in the case of the Band A cars) is nothing to do with road building or repairSam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness:
People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.
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Part of the confusion is using the word 'Tax', to mean the Vehicle Excise Duty - which is a form of tax, and to mean a vehicle licence - which is not a form of tax.
Even the .gov.uk website - Vehicle tax, Mot and insurance, is littered with the word 'tax', sometimes when it should be excise duty, and other times when it should be vehicle licence.0
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