New 2017 road tax rules

Billy_Bullocks

Rover_Driver wrote: »

Part of the confusion is using the word 'Tax', to mean the Vehicle Excise Duty - which is a form of tax, and to mean a vehicle licence - which is not a form of tax.
Even the .gov.uk website - Vehicle tax, Mot and insurance, is littered with the word 'tax', sometimes when it should be excise duty, and other times when it should be vehicle licence.

Does it matter?

Miss165

Just to clarify, this is only for newly registered cars?

Does that mean my 2012 Kia will always be £0 road tax?

wongataa

Miss165 wrote: »

Just to clarify, this is only for newly registered cars?

Does that mean my 2012 Kia will always be £0 road tax?

When VED changes the changes are always for vehicles registered on or after the change date. The VED for existing vehicles does not change. So the VED for you current car will stay the same.

Rover_Driver

Billy_Bullocks wrote: »

Does it matter?

It can do, for example when people talk of their car being 'tax free', it may be free of excise duty, but it is still required to be licensed, or referring to a car as 'untaxed', where no excise duty is due, but the vehicle is unlicensed.

Car_54

wongataa wrote: »

When VED changes the changes are always for vehicles registered on or after the change date. The VED for existing vehicles does not change. So the VED for you current car will stay the same.

With respect, that is completely wrong.

The changes under discussion above are only for new cars, but that is exceptional. AFAIK it has never happened before.

It would be very surprising if the rates for existing cars don't increase either this year or next. Or both.

almillar

Just to clarify, this is only for newly registered cars?
Does that mean my 2012 Kia will always be £0 road tax?

Yes, these changes are only for newly registered cars, so a 2012 car is unaffected.
Your car is within the ~2007-2017 CO2 output banding - theoretically they can do whatever they like with the bands, there are often £5 or £10 increases on categories, but IMO it would be a bit unfair to increase from 'free'.

Car_54

almillar wrote: »

Yes, these changes are only for newly registered cars, so a 2012 car is unaffected.
Your car is within the ~2007-2017 CO2 output banding - theoretically they can do whatever they like with the bands, there are often £5 or £10 increases on categories, but IMO it would be a bit unfair to increase from 'free'.

That's all right then, the government would never do that.

Herzlos

This could be significant in ~3 years, when 2016 cars will be more desirable than 2017. More people are swayed by £140/year tax bill than you'd credit.

Miss165 wrote: »

Just to clarify, this is only for newly registered cars?

Yes, this change is for 2017 onwards, your 2012 will still be taxed on the 2006-2016 bands.

Does that mean my 2012 Kia will always be £0 road tax?

Unless the old bands values change, then it should stay at £0.

oldagetraveller

Nasqueron wrote: »

It's also still Vehicle Excise Duty not Road Tax which hasn't existed since 1937 when Winston Churchill abolished it. While the new VED is mooted to be used for new strategic road building, whether it will be or not is debatable

You'd be better advising the DVLA of that fact, they still call it "tax".

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax

wongataa

Car_54 wrote: »

With respect, that is completely wrong.

The changes under discussion above are only for new cars, but that is exceptional. AFAIK it has never happened before.

It would be very surprising if the rates for existing cars don't increase either this year or next. Or both.

Every time the VED rating scheme has been changed that I can remember the new system has only been applied to vehicles registered after the change - new cars. It is not exceptional. All existing vehicles continue to use the rating scheme they are currently on.

Prices on all rating schemes will vary over time.