Trainers for speed awarement course were awful and one made a lewd remark at me

walwyn1978

On mine there were two people out of twenty who didn't know the national speed limit in built up area/motorways. Don't know who as it was one of those 'press a button and we see the group results on screen' affairs but that still worried me hugely.

As an overall experience I found it quite educational and not a 'lecture'. I accept its probably down to the personality and style of the course leaders.

societys_child

wgl2014 wrote: »

What was the remark?

Herzlos wrote: »

What actually happened?

Norman_Castle wrote: »

Lewd remarks are unprofessional.

Guess we'll never know what the remark was, or if anyone else would consider it "lewd".

rudekid48

eamon wrote: »

A work colleague went and one and I learnt (and have found it usefull) to stick in 3rd gear when on a stretch of road covered by 30mph cameras.

Not much use in an automatic

worried_jim

I find sticking to the speed limits a lot easier in an automatic, I use the cruise control and the speed limiter all the time.

motorguy

worried_jim wrote: »

I find sticking to the speed limits a lot easier in an automatic, I use the cruise control and the speed limiter all the time.

+1

If i've a manual with cruise i'll use that too to stay at 30 (or a speed limiter if the car has it)

Its in the 30's and the 40's that they're most likely to get you, so i'm religious about ensuring i stick to the speed limits now. On country A roads, maybe not so much....

worried_jim

I only drive the same urban route to work and there is a stretch that occasionally has a detector van parked on the bend so it has you before you see it. I always et it to 30 here knowing that I'll be safe.

I've read a few different pieces recently where the speeders have said that they should have just taken the points and fine and not bothered with the course as they were insured through Admiral Group and had to declare that they had attended a course and their premiums still increased. If I get time today I'll see if I can dig one out.

Herzlos

worried_jim wrote: »

I've read a few different pieces recently where the speeders have said that they should have just taken the points and fine and not bothered with the course as they were insured through Admiral Group and had to declare that they had attended a course and their premiums still increased. If I get time today I'll see if I can dig one out.

I've never quite got that argument, it just seems very short-termist. If they are saying the insurance issue is the same if they took the points, then they'd still be better doing the course, as it still leaves them 1 infraction further away from a ban.

I'd be surprised if the insurance hit was the same for 6 points as it would for 3 points + course, or 9 points vs 6 + course, and so on.

AdrianC

worried_jim wrote: »

I've read a few different pieces recently where the speeders have said that they should have just taken the points and fine and not bothered with the course as they were insured through Admiral Group and had to declare that they had attended a course and their premiums still increased.

Seems short-sighted. Admiral's brands are the only insurers who ask about SACs. Insurers ask for the last five years of points. Are they really saying that - come hell, high water, or ridiculous premium hikes - they'll only insure with Admiral for the next five years...?

NBLondon

I'm sanguine about the possibility of the OP actually coming back to read this but... yes definitely, they should complain about the remark to the organisation that ran the course. If you'd take it to HR in the workplace, you should do the same here.


Complaining about the standard of the course is probably a waste of time. Are you complaining because it was boring? Or because it didn't cover the things you thought you needed to know? As opposed to the things that they find most people need to be reminded of...


The one I did a couple of years ago was better than I expected. As others have said - it wasn't pure lecturing but discussion and some useful reminders/tips. It was run by the AA and delivered by an instructor of 25 years experience and a retired examiner. I'm still remembering to watch out for 40 limits that suddenly become 30 (which is why I was flashed in the first place). And Yes - I was surprised that some people in the room didn't know the various national speed limits.


I do use my speed limiter from time to time - most often to keep to 50 on large suburban dual carriageways where the traffic flow could go up to 65 (and then brake down to 43 at each camera). I once tried it at 30 on a road that had recently been reduced from 40 and found that a) everybody was passing me at 38-43 and b) my wife asked if something was wrong with the car!

ALIBOBSY

AdrianC wrote: »

You've not done an SAC, have you?

Trust me, you'd quickly be cured of that misapprehension.

Yep did one last year and only 2 people knew what it was.

Ali x