Penalty Notice from Council

rich13348

Edwood_Woodwood wrote: »

What a load of rubbish.

You are essentially advocating that spreading out the traffic is better than a single file of traffic.

Why is it?

It's the same amount of traffic.

If a road can accommodate single file traffic then you should join the queue by merging into it at various opportunities, but no, you won't do that because you want to jump that queue and go right to the bitter end until you run out of road and thus force yourself onto competent drivers who have to accommodate your lack of driving skill.

I'm done with this thread as arguing with an idiot just brings me down to their level.

I'll encounter your sort on the road tomorrow, no doubt, and the ensuing chaos and you will continue on your merry little ignorant way.

Yay I win you leave
You are the idiot for not being able to imagine my theory or give it a first let alone a second thought. I have put the information down in simple words but you still can't understand it can you what a shame you have no imagination.

almillar

this just spreads the traffic wider rather than lengthening it.

Edwood - I can't quote law or anything, but the above is precisely why, in queues of traffic, you SHOULD use both lanes!
Make the traffic twice as wide, and make it half as long. That means the traffic may not be snaking back onto a roundabout from a slip road, for example. BOTH lanes should be used, ALL the tarmac should be used, and you should MERGE IN TURN at the merge point. It IS better for the queue to be twice as wide, because it is then half as long!
If you don't like it, feel free to follow me in the 'empty' lane. If everyone followed this system, you would turn up to 2 lanes of traffic, and there would be a difference in length of ONE car. No-one can cheat.

dannyrst

I can't believe how ill informed and adamant he is.

Car_54

dannyrst wrote: »

I can't believe how ill informed and adamant he is.

The two often go together.

Rover_Driver

almillar wrote: »

Edwood BOTH lanes should be used, ALL the tarmac should be used, and you should MERGE IN TURN at the merge point.

Only where there are signs Use Both Lanes and Merge in Turn.

At othe locations, where the signs and markings are to move out of the closed lane and merge before reaching the merge point, that is what you should do, and not drive up to the merge point and then try to force your way in.

dannyrst

Rover_Driver wrote: »

Only where there are signs Use Both Lanes and Merge in Turn.

At othe locations, where the signs and markings are to move out of the closed lane and merge before reaching the merge point, that is what you should do, and not drive up to the merge point and then try to force your way in.

You wouldn't need to force your way in if people acted like grownups and did it how it's meant to be done. I'm not saying you should literally be at the cones for the roadworks...but you should be able to see them before you try to move over (based on heavy traffic).

Rover_Driver

dannyrst wrote: »

You wouldn't need to force your way in if people acted like grownups and did it how it's meant to be done. I'm not saying you should literally be at the cones for the roadworks...but you should be able to see them before you try to move over (based on heavy traffic).

That is part of the problem, the drivers that ignore the advanced signs and road markings to merge before the merge point and drive right up to it, and then try to get into the clear lane.
That then causes the stop-start and delays at the merge point for the through traffic.

Guest101

Merge in turn works fine if all drivers use both lanes, those drivers that are upset I'm skipping the queue are the problem, allow a smooth transition into 1 lane and no-one is slowed down, wear on the road is halved and traffic doesn't tailback to previous junctions.

Rover_Driver

Guest101 wrote: »

Merge in turn works fine if all drivers use both lanes,

They should only use both lanes and expect to merge in turn if that is what the signs show. That is one of the problems, drivers who use that approach where it does not apply.

dannyrst

Rover_Driver wrote: »

They should only use both lanes and expect to merge in turn if that is what the signs show. That is one of the problems, drivers who use that approach where it does not apply.

Lol no. There is no reason you shouldn't use the entire lane on any merge in turn. All the signs do is tell you to prepare to merge. If traffic is heavy and there is nowhere to merge to, you carry on going and it should be like a zip.

Otherwise, you have longer tailbacks and cut off access to junctions/roundabouts/etc.