Penalty Notice from Council

neilmcl

Yes, lets just have a free for all.

George_Michael

EdGasket wrote: »

Too many silly little painted lines around these days and cameras to tax the motorist!

Well, I've been driving in the UK for well in excess of 40 years and I've never once been "taxed" due to silly painted lines or cameras.

Edwood_Woodwood

George_Michael wrote: »

Well, I've been driving in the UK for well in excess of 40 years and I've never once been "taxed" due to silly painted lines or cameras.

How did you write this from beyond the grave?

Edwood_Woodwood

rich13348 wrote: »

This is not the correct procedure for a piece of road like this. The correct way is for the two lanes approach the merge and then MERGE IN TURN what does that mean you cry; it means one car from each lane takes turns at going next. The Americans say "like a zipper" if you are still confused.
Your way of driving causes unnecessary tailbacks with everyone who doesn't know the rules or are afraid to follow the rules queuing in the "correct" lane incorrectly.

This isn't the correct procedure at all as it conflicts with S 288 of the HC-

Section 288

Do not switch lanes to overtake queuing traffic

Your post simply states what S 134 of the HC says, ie it is recommended to merge in turn and then only in slow moving traffic.

S 288 says "Do Not."

S 134 is what the queue jumpers always refer to.

The correct procedure is to get over to the lane that will be taking all the traffic as soon as one has seen the signage or road markings that there will be merging traffic ahead.

It is those who ignore the signs and continue on in the lane that will be discontinued due to merging that cause all the havoc and fall foul of S 288.

There should never be an excuse for driving right to the limit of a merging lane yet it happens every day with drivers like you who think they know better.

Car_54

Edwood_Woodwood wrote: »

This isn't the correct procedure at all as it conflicts with S 288 of the HC-

Section 288

Do not switch lanes to overtake queuing traffic

Your post simply states what S 134 of the HC says, ie it is recommended to merge in turn and then only in slow moving traffic.

S 288 says "Do Not."

S 134 is what the queue jumpers always refer to.

The correct procedure is to get over to the lane that will be taking all the traffic as soon as one has seen the signage or road markings that there will be merging traffic ahead.

It is those who ignore the signs and continue on in the lane that will be discontinued due to merging that cause all the havoc and fall foul of S 288.

There should never be an excuse for driving right to the limit of a merging lane yet it happens every day with drivers like you who think they know better.

How does your alleged "correct procedure" follow from "Do not switch lanes"?

And rich13348 made no mention of switching lanes, rather staying in lane.

dannyrst

Edwood_Woodwood wrote: »

This isn't the correct procedure at all as it conflicts with S 288 of the HC-

Section 288

Do not switch lanes to overtake queuing traffic

Your post simply states what S 134 of the HC says, ie it is recommended to merge in turn and then only in slow moving traffic.

S 288 says "Do Not."

S 134 is what the queue jumpers always refer to.

The correct procedure is to get over to the lane that will be taking all the traffic as soon as one has seen the signage or road markings that there will be merging traffic ahead.

It is those who ignore the signs and continue on in the lane that will be discontinued due to merging that cause all the havoc and fall foul of S 288.

There should never be an excuse for driving right to the limit of a merging lane yet it happens every day with drivers like you who think they know better.

So where do people merge? 100m down the road? 200m down the road?

If so, why waste tarmac on the extra bit of road?

Edwood_Woodwood

Car_54 wrote: »

How does your alleged "correct procedure" follow from "Do not switch lanes"?

And rich13348 made no mention of switching lanes, rather staying in lane.

Why did you cut out the rest of what was posted? ie Do not switch lanes to overtake queuing traffic.

Signage is often placed well before queues have even begun and/or the road even merges.

Therefore, changing lanes is exactly just that, changing lane in anticipation of the lane ending or queues forming, perfectly legal and what one is meant to do.

Just where in the HC and/or legislation does it state that vehicles should continue using the lane that will be ending right up to a point where merging in turn has to happen?

And if rich13348 is in a right handed lane that is merging into the left lane then he cannot possibly be staying in lane, he would be going into the left hand lane as his lane would not exist anymore.

Ridiculous point.

RichardD1970

Stay in lane until the merge point.

This uses the full capacity of the road, instead of half of it being empty.

No one mentioned changing lanes to get a "jump" on the queue except you.

Edwood_Woodwood

RichardD1970 wrote: »

Stay in lane until the merge point.

This uses the full capacity of the road, instead of half of it being empty.

No one mentioned changing lanes to get a "jump" on the queue except you.

And nothing in the HC or legislations states to do what you say to do, as highlighted in bold.

rich13348's post on what he said was the correct procedure is the same as yours, no vehicle should be proceeding to the merge point if they were driving correctly in the first place.

The natural consequence of doing so is effectively queue jumping, why else do it?

To use the full capacity of the road? What a load of cobblers.

By continuing to the merge point then you are ignoring the queues in order to get in front of them, that is an offence, inconsiderate driving and in defiance of S 288 of the HC.

You're a road menace.

dannyrst

Edwood_Woodwood wrote: »

And nothing in the HC or legislations states to do what you say to do, as highlighted in bold.

rich13348's post on what he said was the correct procedure is the same as yours, no vehicle should be proceeding to the merge point if they were driving correctly in the first place.

The natural consequence of doing so is effectively queue jumping, why else do it?

To use the full capacity of the road? What a load of cobblers.

By continuing to the merge point then you are ignoring the queues in order to get in front of them, that is an offence, inconsiderate driving and in defiance of S 288 of the HC.

You're a road menace.

It would appear you don't understand. Clearly outlined in the below two articles are how merge in turn works. Plenty more available via Google.

http://www.infsq.co.uk/2011/02/merge-in-turn/

http://www.gazchap.com/posts/merge-in-turn/