Why are leavers so angry

Conrad

Doshwaster wrote: »

Leaving to the EU is going to happen whether we like it or not so voters may decide to move on from the UKIP and concentrate on more domestic issues.

UKIP are very much on the cusp of the zeitgeist and thus speak to peoples concerns on things like Foreign Aid, on tackling the fact a minority of foreign students pay back their student loans, health tourism, Ooman rights manipulation, identity politics, tackling the the faux 'victim' culture that allows far too many to jump resource queue and gain the system, tackling the compensation culture, again often a plaything for the cheats and scroungers, fighting back against snowflake safe space culture. There is much to be done and UKIP would do it

Moby

Graham_Devon wrote: »

As a "brexitard", I'm just confused as to how the experts are right when they predict the dire consequences of brexit.

Yet you loathe nearly everything else about the same government.

The government you loathe for various reasons, but including the fact that they gave people a referendum, are correct when it comes to a prediction? Quaint.

Wrong on every level to give us the referendum, wrong on every economic point they make, wrong on benefits, wrong on social aspects, but right when it comes to economic calculations?

Are you Clapton in disguise Graham...you are stealing his lines;) .
He seems to know what I think better than I do:)
Osborne did lay it on thick granted but....the £ did drop 20% and to be frank we haven't had Brexit yet have we!
You are right I did loathe the last Govmt, not least because they were so wrong to offer a referendum on such a complicated subject that was bound to be hijacked by the immigration issue. Osborne has since admitted as much but says he was bound by collective responsibility! Where in my post did I say the experts all came from the last Govmt? I mentioned Gove because he came out with the quote!

Moby

CLAPTON wrote: »

are both you and mayo starting to compete for toxic toastie position.
Once you used to post non abusive, coherent comments. Even if I didn't agree with pro union, pro tick box, pro state employee, pro labour stuff, it was an atttempt at serious debate

now starting with 'brexitards' reduces you to toxic toastie and mayo nonsense.

Point taken. Apologies if anyone was offended.:beer:

Conrad

The £ dropped as the markets anticipated a competitive response from Britain to Brexit, and indeed the BOE reduced interest rates and printed money.


Brilliant that we have a more competitive currency to aid with re-balancing the economy. So much more important than modest inflation, as a re-balanced less import reliant economy benefits us all.


Trump gets it, he's going to re-balance the economy and not simply give up and allow globalisation to make his citizens poorer per capita and give in to the quaint view we 'just have to accept globalisation' without counter acting its negative effects. Nobody truly NEEDS anything much from China, an economy built on slave labour and Victorian conditions. China cannot just take, take, there's a cost to it

mayonnaise

Shaka_Zulu wrote: »

Funny old world isn't it, you can get away with using words like "BREXITARD" whilst if you use the word "remoaner" you are PPR.

Nobody got PPR'd for using the word remoaner, don't be silly.

Graham_Devon

mayonnaise wrote: »

Oh drat.

Thanks for the link, with headline.

Brexit, as in leaving the EU I assume.

Subtitle:

Leaving the European Union. Leaving, Graham.

Yay! Graham's Forumonics are back!

Are you seriously going to suggest that, even though the reports own introduction categorically states:

"A vote to leave would cause an immediate and profound economic shock creating instability and uncertainty which would be compounded by the complex and interdependent negotiations that would follow".

The report is not looking at the actual vote to leave, but is based on when we have actually left?

Seriously? Even though the report states "which would be compounded by the complex negotiations that would follow" (i.e. follow the vote to leave?).

If so, then all this is rather pointless and there is no hope of having any reasonable discussion with you.

It's clear and in black and white, directly on the Government website.... but you'd rather rely on the headline of an article for your interpretation of what George may have said, instead of listening to what George actually stated in the embedded video? I gave you george osbournes words on a plate, I gave you the very second he states said words " a vote to leave will cause...", but still, you twist the article headline to suit your interpretation of what's been stated and completely ignore what our chancellor himself stated?

And then you claim I'm playing forumonics, which seems to be a byword for "someone has checked what I said and refuted it"?

Good lord.

Graham_Devon

Moby wrote: »

Are you Clapton in disguise Graham...you are stealing his lines;) .

No, but if two of us have picked up on the same thing, maybe theres something in that?

steampowered

Conrad wrote: »

The £ dropped as the markets anticipated a competitive response from Britain to Brexit, and indeed the BOE reduced interest rates and printed money.

I don't think your numbers add up Conrad. You can't explain an approx. 15% drop in the value of the currency by a 0.25% drop in the interest rate.

The investment community has priced in a pretty big negative impact on our economy as a result of Brexit. We'll have to wait and see whether that comes to pass.

Brilliant that we have a more competitive currency to aid with re-balancing the economy. So much more important than modest inflation, as a re-balanced less import reliant economy benefits us all.

Inflation means people don't have as much money. A reduction in imports in favour of (more expensive) locally produced products means consumer goods get more expensive. That all means a drop in living standards. How is that a "benefit" to us all?

Trump gets it, he's going to re-balance the economy and not simply give up and allow globalisation to make his citizens poorer per capita and give in to the quaint view we 'just have to accept globalisation' without counter acting its negative effects. Nobody truly NEEDS anything much from China, an economy built on slave labour and Victorian conditions. China cannot just take, take, there's a cost to it

You and the other Brexiteers have been posting for some time now about how Brexit was a good thing because you want to trade more with countries like China and Indonesia.

For example I directly quote from your post on 6th June in this forum when you said to another poster "Imagine how you will feel as we start putting in place our own deals with ASEAN, China and the rest like other independent nations have".

So, do you want to do more trade with China or less? Which is it? You can't have it both ways.

silverwhistle

Conrad wrote: »

Tt we just laugh it off unlike the lefty snowflakes that demand we adhere to PC imperatives of their design

You're not white, male, heterosexual and reasonably comfortably off, are you?

kabayiri

silverwhistle wrote: »

You're not white, male, heterosexual and reasonably comfortably off, are you?

Why do you ask?

Short of a Xmas date perhaps?