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Labour people, its time to dump Corbyn

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  • padington
    padington Posts: 3,121 Forumite
    edited 18 December 2016 at 4:07PM
    Apparently labour MP's we singing 'things can only get better' at the PLP party. It seems some hope that the exiled king will return.

    Dare I say he it, even Blair probably would be more electable than Corbyn.
    Proudly voted remain. A global union of countries is the only way to commit global capital to the rule of law.
  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/17/labour-gains-two-points-since-november
    Labour closes gap on Tories according to latest opinion poll
    Opinium/Observer poll places Labour on 31% and Tories on 38%

    31% of people will vote Corbyn tomorrow!

    Bad news for MSE's rightwing echo chamber.

    Ouchy.
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    padington wrote: »
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    Dare I say he it, even Blair probably would be more electable than Corbyn.

    The actor Michael Sheen is apparently considering entering politics.

    Fancy that. Someone who played Blair on screen, could soon be playing Blair2 in real life.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    kabayiri wrote: »
    The actor Michael Sheen is apparently considering entering politics.

    Fancy that. Someone who played Blair on screen, could soon be playing Blair2 in real life.

    Brian Clough might be a better choice. Be outspoken and say what you think.
  • Moto2
    Moto2 Posts: 2,206 Forumite
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/17/labour-gains-two-points-since-november



    31% of people will vote Corbyn tomorrow!

    Bad news for MSE's rightwing echo chamber.

    Ouchy.

    It also claimed
    "The opposition leader, Jeremy Corbyn, has failed to capitalise – with his approval rating down seven points at -27%"
    Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.
  • mrginge
    mrginge Posts: 4,843 Forumite
    BobQ wrote: »
    Sadly the Labour right are also in denial, waiting for something to happen. Now would be the time to re-align, form a credible Parliamentary opposition and be prepared to go to the country. Instead they just sit and loyally await their pensions.

    I think the labour right have probably realised that being too vocal at the moment just makes them more and more hated by the 'new' membership. Better to let the leadership be shown up as incompetent for a few months.

    Local elections in May will be next big test. We'll see if having a massive membership translates into national votes. Problem for labour is that their current stance is unlikely to swing many voters away from tories/lib/ukip. So they are looking for the new and previously non-voting electorate to come on board.

    A bad result in may, combined with more internal fighting at momentum might give the blairites a chance.
  • ukcarper
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    The main benefit of voting Labour is that you get permission to feel envy and spite towards people who have worked harder than you, who have taken more risks than you and who have been prepared to do without things now to get on later. For a certain type of individual this is very important- more important than the actual election result.
    I suppose that's similar to voting Tory so you can feel smug and look down on everyone worse off than you.
  • Thrugelmir
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    mrginge wrote: »


    A bad result in may, combined with more internal fighting at momentum might give the blairites a chance.

    There was an uneasy alliance between Brown and Blair that sellotaped the party together. Blairites lack a leader and therefore are rudderless and lack direction or purpose.
  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    Now the Blairites have been resolutely crushed, true Labour supporters, and the nation are rallying behind Corbyn.

    This is in spite of every propaganda weapon in the main stream's arsenal arrayed against him.

    This is laying awake stuff for the May's, the Johnson's and the Dacres.

    If they can't tell people how to think by printing a picture of Kim Kardashian in a low cut top, and telling them what to think, then what is left for them?
  • padington
    padington Posts: 3,121 Forumite
    edited 19 December 2016 at 12:08AM
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/17/labour-gains-two-points-since-november



    31% of people will vote Corbyn tomorrow!

    Bad news for MSE's rightwing echo chamber.

    Ouchy.

    Corbyn led Labour just came forth in the last by-election. Lost to lib dems and UKIP.

    With obey one, they are finished. They've lost Scotland, now probably London. The games over.
    Proudly voted remain. A global union of countries is the only way to commit global capital to the rule of law.
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