Family cant afford Christmas

societys_child

Three days + four and a half hours later, the op has not shown his face.

It's wind up.

AylesburyDuck

societys_child wrote: »

Three days + four and a half hours later, the op has not shown his face.

It's wind up.

Strangely just thought the same thing.

mumps

Pollycat wrote: »

Check post #143.

You quoted a post of mine.
I then quoted your post #143 in my reply to you in my post #146.

The post you replied to 7DW was post #144.

Sorry, I thought you were replying to what I said to SDW.

meister123

curty510 wrote: »

A friend of my wife has asked if we can lend her some money for Christmas, as she said she hasn't been 'paid' this month and cannot afford presents/food etc for her family(husband & 3 kids).

Now when I say paid, neither of them work, nothing wrong with them, just dont work and claim multiple benefits. I don't know the reason for them not being paid , I presume sanctions or a blatant lie, don't know, nor care.

My wife is more than happy to lend them £500, I am 100% against it as i doubt we will see it back and I cannot abide the lot of them. She feels for their children as it is not their fault that the parents are total losers. In the 5 years we have been in this village we have not known them to work, they drink a lot, both smoke(i refer to them as 'The Clampitts'.....so shy should i bail them out?

I have savings available, and if they were my kids/grandkids i would be in the bank now and not expect it back. But as i said i cannot stand them, but OH gets on with the wife through a club.

I probably come across as a bit scrooge like, im not, i can afford to lose the money, but don't see why i should.

Would you bail them out?

What did you decide to do?

Pollycat

meister123 wrote: »

What did you decide to do?

Now that ^^^ is the £1,000,000 question.

Person_one

societys_child wrote: »

Three days + four and a half hours later, the op has not shown his face.

It's wind up.

I think that was immediately obvious! Interesting discussion can ensue from troll posts though, designed as they are to get a reaction.

fannyadams

societys_child wrote: »

Three days + four and a half hours later, the op has not shown his face.

It's wind up.

Perhaps he got deployed.

curty510 wrote: »

So do I. I can claim my military pension from the moment i leave the service, which increases at at SPA. I feel sorry for people that have not made provisions for retirement and will be reliant upon the SP. But we all know that it is a pittance

thorsoak

Pollycat wrote: »

Why?
Have you?

Person_one wrote: »

Have you ever known any families like this? Ever met any of the children from them?

Yes - I described on of three local families (all related) in my post #70.

Most of the employees of the business where I work is a born & bred local, as are these families. I think that there is a history going way back of these families all using drink/drugs - but social services don't seem to be involved but the community is. This is quite a close-knit community which tuts and shakes its head over these situations, but doesn't judge. It just looks after the children when the parents are too hung-over or out of it on whatever they take. Hopefully the children - the oldest two are in their teens will break the cycle - oldest girl seems quite fiesty in her responses to questions about what's happening this Christmas!

Proxima_Centauri

The discussion has broadened out to the subject of negligent parents generally, and whether giving them money will help the situation, or help the children to grow up to be better people.

I think it depends. The cycle could be broken if the child of hopeless parents is given encouragement and financial help from an outsider, and manages to strike out on their own one day.

Equally the child may learn by seeing their parents getting bailed out time after time, that they don't really need to bother aspiring to anything better in life, as there'll always be someone around to give them money.

missbiggles1

Person_one wrote: »

Yes, very well.

If only it were as simple as not being able to give their kids a nice Christmas providing motivation to get their act together! I do wish you were right, but it runs much deeper and one of the ways to break the cycle is for the children to see a different example before they get into the same depressing cycle themselves. Uncomplicated kindness from outsiders can literally be a lifesaver.

Unfortunately, the lesson they learn may not be the one you hope for.:(