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Accommodation v Disposable income dilemma

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  • glasgowdan
    glasgowdan Posts: 2,968 Forumite
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    PlanLife wrote: »
    Is that so?

    Well look up 'social mobility' on Wikipedia and you might change your mind.

    No one said you can buy class in terms of etiquette, but certain prized possessions 'place' you in a social class in terms of lifestyle and give you the chance to climb higher in life. E.g. owning a multi-million pound superyacht in Monaco would place you in and allow you to rub shoulders with the upper class. Whereas for a person who started off underclass in fostercare and hostels - having a full time job, a well kept council house and an old car would be enough to mobilise them into the working class.

    Wow, I know it's rude to say, but you're an idiot! I agree with another poster, you seem like a non UK-national. True?

    How does 'rub shoulders with the upper class' equate to 'climb higher'?

    This is hilarious if you're actually serious. There are people here with more money than you care to imagine. I know people with more than you can imagine, and generally the ones with money don't act like idiots about it. They're just people with (relatively) normal lives.

    You'll honestly never ever be happy, young man!
  • arthurdick
    arthurdick Posts: 3,722 Forumite
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    Do you know that you have impressed me quite a bit, you have managed to get to the top of the contenders list for "the most stupid question of the year" award, well done , quite impressive.

    Only just over 2 weeks to go now, you must be odds-on to win.
    Corduroy pillows are making headlines! Back home in London now after 27years wait! Duvet know it's Christmas, not original, it's a cover.
  • More impressed by average apartment and nice other things
    boliston wrote: »
    You made no mention of super-yachts........you were asking if people would be impressed by a 3 bed detached house!

    Because I was talking about mobilising from 'my' social class. My parents and their parents were working class and had terraced houses. If I buy a 3 bed detached then I will be placed in and rubbing shoulders with the middle/upper middle class
  • marksoton
    marksoton Posts: 17,516 Forumite
    PlanLife wrote: »
    I know you probably heard it already but I think 'Tracy Chapmam - Fast Car' sums up why people see cars as something which could 'impress'. It's just that feeling of someone being in control (it's kind of cheesy but magic carpet ride from Aladdin too), I think it's just for people who are more keen to impress with the moment and excitement and spontaneity than people who want to impress by being a good host and being able to bring a lot of their friends together in one room and socialising and having fun in the moment in that kind of way.
    PlanLife wrote: »
    Well I wouldn't be drinking but you and my other mates would be so impressed by being able to get drunk and be passengers in my cool car that you wouldn't even notice how much of a sober bore I was being (anyway we could book a hotel and get brunch there the next day then drive home seeing I would have so much disposable income)

    And okay you might want to just go to the bar the first time you hang out with your colleague but after you have got aquainted as friends then eventually you'd want to chill out at each others house now and then which comes back to the question in the OP

    You're either !!!!ed on drugs or in need of medication. Either way i hope you're not driving!
  • rosyw
    rosyw Posts: 519 Forumite
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    PlanLife wrote: »
    Because I was talking about mobilising from 'my' social class. My parents and their parents were working class and had terraced houses. If I buy a 3 bed detached then I will be placed in and rubbing shoulders with the middle/upper middle class

    No you won't! A 3 bed detached is NOT middle/upper middle class - at least not as far as I'm concerned. I think you are confusing
    someone's relative wealth with class, they are two totally different things, while moving up the financial ladder is fairly straight forward, to be able to truly move up a social class demands far more than money.
  • glasgowdan
    glasgowdan Posts: 2,968 Forumite
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    PlanLife wrote: »
    Because I was talking about mobilising from 'my' social class. My parents and their parents were working class and had terraced houses. If I buy a 3 bed detached then I will be placed in and rubbing shoulders with the middle/upper middle class

    I LITERALLY lolled at this, muppetry of the highest order!
  • fierystormcloud
    fierystormcloud Posts: 1,588 Forumite
    edited 15 December 2016 at 12:06AM
    Equally impressed by neither
    PlanLife wrote: »
    Because I was talking about mobilising from 'my' social class. My parents and their parents were working class and had terraced houses. If I buy a 3 bed detached then I will be placed in and rubbing shoulders with the middle/upper middle class

    This is a wind-up right?

    No purchase of a detached 3 bed house is gonna make you middle class, (or upper class PMSL!) Where on earth did you get THAT idea from?

    If you are working class (which I suspect you are,) you could win a million on the lottery and you will not be middle class; you will just be working class and rich!

    You are born into a class, and accumulating wealth and possessions doesn't change that! And neither does having a university degree. Some people do think if they grow up working class and go to uni and get a mortgage for a 4 bed detached house that they are suddenly middle class.

    Wrong.
    PlanLife wrote: »
    Is that so?

    Well look up 'social mobility' on Wikipedia and you might change your mind.

    No one said you can buy class in terms of etiquette, but certain prized possessions 'place' you in a social class in terms of lifestyle and give you the chance to climb higher in life. E.g. owning a multi-million pound superyacht in Monaco would place you in and allow you to rub shoulders with the upper class. Whereas for a person who started off underclass in fostercare and hostels - having a full time job, a well kept council house and an old car would be enough to mobilise them into the working class.
    I don't think you're native British ... if you were you'd already know that, quite frankly, nobody gives a t0ss what others have got... and the bigger/flashier house/things, the more people will think you're a t0sser.

    :)

    Agree with pastures new. Nothing makes me wanna vom in my mouth more than someone garbling on about their 'wealth' and material possessions and their five grand cruise and their thirty grand car and the bag that cost them half a grand. You're in cloud cuckoo land 'PlanLife' if you think having expensive things makes you a better person and makes people like or respect you more. You are also in cloud cuckoo land if you think becoming wealthy suddenly makes you jump up the social classes. You are in for a very rude awakening in life. (I am guessing you are young - early 20's probably...)
    HiToAll wrote: »
    are you impressed by my pole, yes or no?
    that is a more important question

    I have 3... Do you like them? :)

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    550x359_view_longyearbyen_panorama.jpg
    cooeeeeeeeee :j :wave:
  • lynz68
    lynz68 Posts: 323 Forumite
    PlanLife wrote: »
    Because I was talking about mobilising from 'my' social class. My parents and their parents were working class and had terraced houses. If I buy a 3 bed detached then I will be placed in and rubbing shoulders with the middle/upper middle class

    What a pile of crap. I went from being born in a terrace house to now living in a rather nice detached house has it changed my class of course not it just means I worked hard to enable me to have a nice life. When the sprogs leave home I will be downsizing and my class still won't change.

    I wouldn't worry about people coming round to your house whatever it may be. Life is all about the person you are not what you have or haven't got. Social class does not make you a more likeable person a prat is a prat whatever background they come from and can usually be found out fairly quickly.
  • Pixie5740
    Pixie5740 Posts: 14,515 Forumite
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    edited 15 December 2016 at 12:02AM
    Equally impressed by neither
    glasgowdan wrote: »
    I LITERALLY lolled at this, muppetry of the highest order!

    Me too. I've got, "The Bucket (pronounced bouquet) residence, the lady of the house speaking," stuck in my head.
  • Pixie5740
    Pixie5740 Posts: 14,515 Forumite
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    Equally impressed by neither
    OP, apparently the traditional class system is no longer relevant in the U.K.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22000973

    Keep in mind that those who boast are often the ones with least to boast about.

    How would you or I know about someone's financial circumstances? Perhaps someone has lots of nice, material possessions but is up to their eyeballs in debt or steals the money from an elderly relative to finance their lifestyle. Perhaps they've worked hard and saved, or maybe got a leg up from the BOMAD, or their lottery numbers came up. It's someone's character that should impress not whether they have a Mercedes, swimming pool and room for a pony.
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