Mobilty cars .....Joke

Tothepoint.

Joe_Horner wrote: »

I guess you're not aware that DLA / PIP are nothing to do with working or not?

They're both non-means-tested allowances that we, as a caring society, make available to people who have extra expenses involved in living as near to a "normal" life as possible in light of their disabilities.

You can claim regardless of whether or not you're workiing, and regardless of what your income is. In fact, in many cases, the allowance is what makes the difference between someone being able to work or not because someone who can't take the 6 am bus to work every day because getting to the bus stop half a mile away will cripple them can still get to work in their motability car.

Don't let the fact that your favourite Outrage Rags only ever highlight the obviously dodgy cases blind you to the fact that the vast majority of cases are genuine need and provide genuine assistance.

You completely gloss over the fact someone who doesn't work and is in receipt of PIP/DLA can have a free car.

Or are you claiming that receiving benefits is now classed as employment?

Joe_Horner

Tothepoint. wrote: »

You completely gloss over the fact someone who doesn't work and is in receipt of PIP/DLA can have a free car.

Or are you claiming that receiving benefits is now classed as employment?

I'm not glossing over it at all, I thought this was pretty clear:

You can claim regardless of whether or not you're working, and regardless of what your income is.

The point is that disability payments are (rightly in a civilised society) a universal system which provides support to people who have care or mobility needs regardless of other circumstances.

Indeed, even our last Prime Minister claimed on behalf of his late son despite his Prime Ministerial salary. Of course, whether or not a politician could be accused of "working" is an entirely different debate.

Car_54

Tothepoint. wrote: »

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This is going round in circles.

The car is NOT free. It costs the individual £250 a month. If he didn't choose to have a car, he'd have that £250 to spend on alternative transport.

The downside of opting for the car is that it advertises the fact that he is in receipt of the benefit, which otherwise would be a private matter. This makes him a target for the knuckle-dragging, Daily Mail-reading cretins.

Present company, as always, excepted;).

takman

Tothepoint. wrote: »

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So let's say the car is free, what point are you trying to make?.

Why can't a disabled person have a free car?. I'm happy for disabled people to get free cars because (without trying to offend anyone) the thought of being disabled is awful!. People happily donate millions of pounds a year to charities helping people in other countries, so how could that happen yet the disabled people who live in the same street as you have to struggle with public transport?

Tothepoint.

Car_54 wrote: »

This is going round in circles.

The car is NOT free. It costs the individual £250 a month. If he didn't choose to have a car, he'd have that £250 to spend on alternative transport.

The downside of opting for the car is that it advertises the fact that he is in receipt of the benefit, which otherwise would be a private matter. This makes him a target for the knuckle-dragging, Daily Mail-reading cretins.

Present company, as always, excepted;).

Where does the £250 come from? State hand outs.

Mercdriver

Tothepoint. wrote: »

Where does the £250 come from? State hand outs.

So? They pay tax. Every time they fill it up they pay tax. Every time they buy something subject to VAT, they pay tax. Remember the car is in lieu of payments. And that is if the holder of the motability car isn't working.

If they are working, then they are also paying income tax and national insurance. I have no issue with people claiming what they are entitled to claim provided they are entitled to claim for it. Motability is all that is keeping some disabled people in work. Trains aren't the best for disabled people to use, and buses are out of the question for the vast majority.

The knuckle draggers will find themselves in the same position as Strider. Bad posture gives you back pain.

bigbulldog

Tothepoint I wonder what your thoughts would be on my next motability free car choice for January

Audi Q3 S line plus
BMW X1 25d M Sport
Volvo XC60 R Design

Which one do you think would be most suitable for me with my disabilities.

Tothepoint.

Mercdriver wrote: »

So? They pay tax. Every time they fill it up they pay tax. Every time they buy something subject to VAT, they pay tax. Remember the car is in lieu of payments. And that is if the holder of the motability car isn't working.

If they are working, then they are also paying income tax and national insurance. I have no issue with people claiming what they are entitled to claim provided they are entitled to claim for it. Motability is all that is keeping some disabled people in work. Trains aren't the best for disabled people to use, and buses are out of the question for the vast majority.

The knuckle draggers will find themselves in the same position as Strider. Bad posture gives you back pain.

They pay tax with the benefits they receive. So the tax payers paying for their car and every time they're taxed.

Benefits without employement is free living. Maybe that's you.

Cornucopia

Tothepoint. wrote: »

Benefits without employement is free living. Maybe that's you.

Are you saying there should be no benefits?

pstuart

bigbulldog wrote: »

Tothepoint I wonder what your thoughts would be on my next motability free car choice for January

Audi Q3 S line plus
BMW X1 25d M Sport
Volvo XC60 R Design

Which one do you think would be most suitable for me with my disabilities.

Trolls should check their facts - non of the above cars will be available from Jan 1st 2017.

And of course they're not free.