Excel Parking fine

Mum2nsande

Umkomaas wrote: »

In the past 2 years and 9 months Excel have issued around 1/3rd of a million tickets (330,000). In that same time they have issued court proceedings in 155 cases.

Now do the math! Less than 0.05% of tickets get to a court stage.

Wow!! Now I definitely WONT be paying it. Those figures are obscene!!

Mum2nsande

beamerguy wrote: »

Would you give £60 to a beggar in the street

I actually told myself this morning that if Toys R Us or Peel respond to me saying that they will waiver the charge, I will actually donate half the fee to a charity. Isn't it funny, all the little things in life that I would love to do or treat myself to and never do because the money is never there, and then this crops up and makes you realise just how precious every single penny is.

Mum2nsande

Umkomaas wrote: »

In the past 2 years and 9 months Excel have issued around 1/3rd of a million tickets (330,000). In that same time they have issued court proceedings in 155 cases.

Now do the math! Less than 0.05% of tickets get to a court stage.

...but how many of those 330,000 tickets eventually end up paying? Is it 99.5%? Is that why only 0.05% make it to court...? I wonder if 329,845 people just paid the fee to put an end to it.

Umkomaas

Mum2nsande wrote: »

...but how many of those 330,000 tickets eventually end up paying? Is it 99.5%? Is that why only 0.05% make it to court...? I wonder if 329,845 people just paid the fee to put an end to it.

No absolute statistics, only the PPC would have those. The general estimation across all PPCs is that around 50% are not paid. So I guess that doubles the chance of being taken to court - to a scary 1%.

Mum2nsande

Umkomaas wrote: »

No absolute statistics, only the PPC would have those. The general estimation across all PPCs is that around 50% are not paid. So I guess that doubles the chance of being taken to court - to a scary 1%.

:rotfl: Thank you. You've made me relax a little bit. (Although, it's not in my nature to be relaxed - I'm a born worrier).

Coupon-mad

Mum2nsande wrote: »

the way I feel about the whole mess is that I would rather just pay it and forget about it

Stop worrying. and please don't pay (don't fund the next PCNs). You are a better person than to sponsor Excel, aren't you?

Even if it's not cancelled, a keeper cannot be held liable by Excel. So you are bulletproof.

Really be assertive with the complaint emails and state your family & friends are minded never to visit this retail park again and certainly not for Christmas purchases unless this is cancelled as a goodwill gesture immediately.

Don't add words that say who was driving (it is easy to write without naming the driver when you just say 'we' not 'I').

Mum2nsande

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Even if it's not cancelled, a keeper cannot be held liable by Excel. So you are bulletproof.

When you say that a "keeper" cannot be held liable - do you mean who the car is registered to? (sorry for being thick) , and that I am bulletproof. The car is registered to my husband, but he was at work that day! I'm wondering who actually WOULD be responsible for paying it??

beamerguy

Mum2nsande wrote: »

When you say that a "keeper" cannot be held liable - do you mean who the car is registered to? (sorry for being thick) , and that I am bulletproof. The car is registered to my husband, but he was at work that day! I'm wondering who actually WOULD be responsible for paying it??

Yes your husband is the registered keeper as per DVLA records and as he was at work and can prove it, he cannot be held responsible.
It then comes down to who was driving at the time and you are not obliged to say.
The Excel method is flawed as proven when they try use so called solicitors BWLegal who are known to be incompetent with a lack of understanding.

Mum2nsande

beamerguy wrote: »

Yes your husband is the registered keeper as per DVLA records and as he was at work and can prove it, he cannot be held responsible.
It then comes down to who was driving at the time and you are not obliged to say.
The Excel method is flawed as proven when they try use so called solicitors BWLegal who are known to be incompetent with a lack of understanding.

Interesting, thank you.

Mum2nsande

So, just to summarise - I'm definitely to send the IPC template and NOT just a letter of appeal from husband that says "sorry, I don't know what you're talking about, I was at work that day and can prove it" (Incidentally, he can only prove it by getting a written statement from his boss).

The IPC template, word for word, is the ONLY thing we should send?