sexual harassment on seetec course?

xapprenticex

TELLIT01 wrote: »

.... it's sexual harassment if the recipient perceives it as such ....

I'm calling B.S. on that.

You can tell a woman she look pretty or has nice legs and some will get triggered by that, that is not sexual harassment regardless of what they may think.

Now if they say "Dont say that" and you continue, then yeah, thats an issue.

cat_777

thanks guys for all the reply's, what happened is yesterday when i finished for the day i called seetec to say i would not be coming in anymore and told them it was because of sexual comments 2 boys were making and asked her to pass the message on to the course leader she said ok and that was it.

they then contacted papworth who phoned me and i explained in more detail what had gone on and she asked me to go in today to make a statement.
but this morning she phoned me and said that seetec had said that when i phoned i was shouting at everyone in the office when i did not

i only spoke to 1 lady and i did not shout at her i was quite upset but i did not shout at her

so i said i did not want to go in and write the statement with her.
she said i could write it myself if i wanted but i don't now how to do it
i wish i had just left it and not said anything now.

robatwork

TELLIT01 wrote: »

From my limited understanding of the issue, it's sexual harassment if the recipient perceives it as such, irrespective of whether it was intended or not.

Very limited.

Having read the thread, the comments made to the OP were inappropriate, neanderthal and moronic, and do constitute harrassment.

However let's say for example someone said "how are you?" to someone else on the course, and they were a little nutty and perceived that to be harrassment. Is it?

xapprenticex

Cat, im going to make an assumption, correct me if im wrong.

When these guys were making their dirty jokes, you smiled and laughed it off.

Next time, dont smile, joke or even socialise with people like that at all, or do what I would do and repeat their statement, like "Did you just say etc etc etc", loud enough for people to hear.

daytona0

suki1964 wrote: »

Precisely

That sort of chat is not valid or welcome in the workplace

Just because so far you have not been caught , doesn't make it ok to do it with no ears around

Oh and yes I work as a chef and you hear the most filthy sexiest language you would ever hear. But anyone asking those sort of questions would be out the door without a reference

How you condone such behavior in a place of work I don't know

I don't say anything of the sort, but I suppose what I'm getting at is very similar to that of your chef example.

[Deleted User]

so i said i did not want to go in and write the statement with her.
she said i could write it myself if i wanted but i don't now how to do it
.

Could you print of your posts from this thread, (as you've already started) add if necessary in private, date and sign it.
If anyone has better ideas you listen to them.

While it's maybe to late, I would then amend the thread title to least get the organisation name off display as I'm not sure it's doing any good in this instance. And well I've seen enough adults berated as making excuses to avoid work so I think you owe it to see it through.

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

xapprenticex wrote: »

I'm calling B.S. on that.

You can tell a woman she look pretty or has nice legs and some will get triggered by that, that is not sexual harassment regardless of what they may think.

Now if they say "Dont say that" and you continue, then yeah, thats an issue.

It is absolutely not appropriate to comment on anybody's legs in a workplace.

jobbingmusician

cat_777 wrote: »

thanks guys for all the reply's, what happened is yesterday when i finished for the day i called seetec to say i would not be coming in anymore and told them it was because of sexual comments 2 boys were making and asked her to pass the message on to the course leader she said ok and that was it.

they then contacted papworth who phoned me and i explained in more detail what had gone on and she asked me to go in today to make a statement.
but this morning she phoned me and said that seetec had said that when i phoned i was shouting at everyone in the office when i did not

i only spoke to 1 lady and i did not shout at her i was quite upset but i did not shout at her

so i said i did not want to go in and write the statement with her.
she said i could write it myself if i wanted but i don't now how to do it
i wish i had just left it and not said anything now.

If you want, write out what you want to say and I will tidy it up for you and make some suggestions. You can PM me.

sangie595

xapprenticex wrote: »

I'm calling B.S. on that.

You can tell a woman she look pretty or has nice legs and some will get triggered by that, that is not sexual harassment regardless of what they may think.

Now if they say "Dont say that" and you continue, then yeah, thats an issue.

And I am calling B.S. on that. That IS sexual harassment. There is no requirement to comment on someone's looks in a workplace. It is not someone else's responsibility to have to tell you how to act appropriately in a workplace.

Astonishing how many people appear to be under the impression that the only unsafe subject to talk about in a workplace is work!

sangie595

cat_777 wrote: »

thanks guys for all the reply's, what happened is yesterday when i finished for the day i called seetec to say i would not be coming in anymore and told them it was because of sexual comments 2 boys were making and asked her to pass the message on to the course leader she said ok and that was it.

they then contacted papworth who phoned me and i explained in more detail what had gone on and she asked me to go in today to make a statement.
but this morning she phoned me and said that seetec had said that when i phoned i was shouting at everyone in the office when i did not

i only spoke to 1 lady and i did not shout at her i was quite upset but i did not shout at her

so i said i did not want to go in and write the statement with her.
she said i could write it myself if i wanted but i don't now how to do it
i wish i had just left it and not said anything now.

You should never keep silent about behaviour that makes you uncomfortable. I am afraid that this is a hard lesson, but it happens, and it happens in workplaces too. Learning how to stop it is a life lesson. You cannot simply walk out of a workplace because you will lose your job. And you can't spent possibly years trying to tolerate it because you are afraid of the consequences of reporting it. It needs to be done.