KNOCK KNOCK Mrs May, anyone at home ??? what are you doing about these CCJ's

Edna_Basher

Court claims don't begin and end with parking tickets.

But thanks to POFA 2012, a parking ticket is the only example where a claim for breach of contract can be made against a person who was not even party to that contract.

PPCs go to great lengths to mimic "real" parking tickets issued by local authorities and other statutory bodies. Statutory penalties "time out" after six months - why not amend POFA 2012 to bring private parking tickets into line by including a new clause giving PPCs just six months to bring their claim against a vehicle's keeper to the Courts? The existing statute of limitations could still apply - but limited only to claims against the driver.

beamerguy

pappa_golf wrote: »

watching ,,,,,


ho0wever I think this will fizzle to a reform of the CC system to be DISCUSSED in the house of lords at 04.30am on wed dec 24th 2025

Be patient please

Ivor_Pecheque

I've sent the stories of those affected by Parking Eye at Macclesfield Hospital (there are plenty) this morning.

She has e-mailed me back, and tells me she wishes to get this debated as a matter of urgency, when The House of Lords opens in October.

beamerguy

TDA wrote: »

The best suggestion I've seen is the one above that you should have to sign a statement of truth that all reasonable attempts to verify the address have been taken prior to requesting a default judgment. At the very least the courts should be running this prior to entering one anyway. They could be given access to government databases to ensure the defendant has not moved, which could help massively reduce instances of default CCJs.

Yes, as I said earlier, a statement of truth is the way forward.
The onus would be on the claimant and if proved false, the courts can deal with that.

I doubt the courts would want an extra burden as they are busy enough. Doubtful the public would approve of more data release.

Coupon-mad

Ivor_Pecheque wrote: »

I've sent the stories of those affected by Parking Eye at Macclesfield Hospital (there are plenty) this morning.

She has e-mailed me back, and tells me she wishes to get this debated as a matter of urgency, when The House of Lords opens in October.

People with CCJs need to bombard Theresa May and Sir Oliver Heald with their stories - NOW. Strike while the iron in hot and KEEP striking all through September:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/71294781#Comment_71294781

You can imagine how much the BPA will lobby against this, turning up all suited and booted, shaking hands with old friends. So WE need to encourage every newbie with a story about ANY private parking scam, especially those with court claims and CCJs, to send snail mail copies to land on Mrs May and Sir Oliver's desks, day in day out.

This is the new clamping - credit clamping - and we can influence decisions right now, as they are listening.

beamerguy

Ivor_Pecheque wrote: »

I've sent the stories of those affected by Parking Eye at Macclesfield Hospital (there are plenty) this morning.

She has e-mailed me back, and tells me she wishes to get this debated as a matter of urgency, when The House of Lords opens in October.

And if Lord Neuberger is sitting, wonder what his response will be ?

beamerguy

Coupon-mad wrote: »

People with CCJs need to bombard Theresa May and 'Sir Oliver' with their stories - NOW. Strike while the iron in hot and KEEP striking all through September:

Correct but not only those with these problem, it's also those for the future who don't know yet.

The BPA have lost any clout apart from employing those who work for PPC's. THE GAME IS INCEST

Coupon-mad

beamerguy wrote: »

And if Lord Neuberger is sitting, wonder what his response will be ?

That will be interesting. The Supreme Court's decision was (to be fair, being careful with my words) shocking and now it comes home to roost.

TDA

Edna_Basher wrote: »

But thanks to POFA 2012, a parking ticket is the only example where a claim for breach of contract can be made against a person who was not even party to that contract.

PPCs go to great lengths to mimic "real" parking tickets issued by local authorities and other statutory bodies. Statutory penalties "time out" after six months - why not amend POFA 2012 to bring private parking tickets into line by including a new clause giving PPCs just six months to bring their claim against a vehicle's keeper to the Courts? The existing statute of limitations could still apply - but limited only to claims against the driver.

Interesting. I wasn't aware council tickets timed out at that stage.

I would not be averse to a statutory limit being set in line with council tickets. In my own opinion the parking charges on private land should have a statutory founding and be regulated by a government body, rather than one of two trade associations.

The current idea that parking charges are contractually agreed is a little farcical and leads to a bizarre situation where a ticket at a retail park for a genuine customer overstaying is enforceable but, arguably, a ticket issued to a non-permit holder parked where they aren't welcome would not.

Put everything on a statutory footing and have it robustly regulated, rather than trying to bend law that was developed before cars were really a thing to fit the private parking world.

beamerguy

Coupon-mad wrote: »

That will be interesting. The Supreme Court's decision was (to be fair, being careful with my words) shocking and now it comes home to roost.

I doubt that Lord Neuberger realised what was about to happen, I'm sure he knows now