I will knock you out ! BBCs Jeremy Vine films woman driver`s shocking road rage

prowla

Norman_Castle wrote: »

:rotfl: You seem hesitant to suggest an answer. Could it be the keep left rule?

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Highway_Code_(1931)

RULE OF THE ROAD. Vehicles.—Keep to the left (or near side) except when overtaking other vehicles or avoiding obstructions: when overtaking, overtake on the right (or off-side).

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/using-the-road-159-to-203

Rule 160

Once moving you should

• keep to the left, unless road signs or markings indicate otherwise. The exceptions are when you want to overtake, turn right or pass parked vehicles or pedestrians in the road

Oh, silly me!:)

Yes, you should keep to the left; that's the whole point.

It doesn't say stay in the centre or right of your lane - it simply says keep left.

The other road markings rules (previously mentioned) cover the lane markings and when you may cross them.

custardy

prowla wrote: »

Oh, silly me!:)

Yes, you should keep to the left; that's the whole point.

It doesn't say stay in the centre or right of your lane - it simply says keep left.

The other road markings rules (previously mentioned) cover the lane markings and when you may cross them.

So most vehicles are failing that rule?

esuhl

jack_pott wrote: »

Not unless they start marking cycle paths on road atlases, and not unless they signpost them with more than just a bicycle logo. A major reason for my not using cycle paths is that they can make navigation nigh on impossible.

I sometimes use trunk roads for the same reason motorists do, to get from A to B quickly, a lot of cycle paths are routed on the assumption that avoiding traffic is the only criterion.

You're absolutely right. All of those issues would need to be resolved so that the cycle routes are preferred by all types of cyclist.

I live in a village that's about 1/2 a mile long and has a dual-carriageway bypass. It's a fast road with two lanes, crash barriers and railings on either side of the road, and without even a footpath. Very few cyclists are brave enough to use it.

The road through the village itself is a shortcut. As a result it gets incredibly congested with drivers rat-running. I think it would work really well to ban cycling on the 1/2 mile of dual-carriageway and convert the road through the village to be attractive for cyclists and pedestrians so that motorists stuck to the dual-carriageway. That would improve speeds on the dual-carriageway as vehicles wouldn't be trying to merge from the village road.

There are very few places where it would work, but I think in some cases it would help to segregate cyclists and motorists, improving travel times for everyone. But I totally agree with your points.

prowla

custardy wrote: »

So most vehicles are failing that rule?

Who knows - that snapshot is of a point in time; to me it looks like the green lorry is giving the red one a wide berth and the blue car has done likewise.

However, in this case, none appears to be actually impeding the other, so there is no particular outcome.

custardy

prowla wrote: »

Who knows - that snapshot is of a point in time; to me it looks like the green lorry is giving the red one a wide berth and the blue car has done likewise.

However, in this case, none appears to be actually impeding the other, so there is no particular outcome.

So its only if you deem a vehicle to be impeding that the keep left rule applies?



so what about here?

hugheskevi

Yes, you should keep to the left; that's the whole point.

It doesn't say stay in the centre or right of your lane - it simply says keep left.

Perhaps this explains the annoying 1 car in 50 which decides to position themselves to the extreme left of a lane in stationary traffic, when all the other vehicles are in the centre of the lane despite (or probably because of) the stream of cyclists they obstruct and which have to move out to filter past on right to go around them and then move back left to continue filtering

prowla

custardy wrote: »

So its only if you deem a vehicle to be impeding that the keep left rule applies?



so what about here?

Well, who cares where precisely they are in their lane, if nobody's moving and they're not in anybody's way.
Heck. you could argue that they're leaving a gap for cycles to get through.

prowla

hugheskevi wrote: »

Perhaps this explains the annoying 1 car in 50 which decides to position themselves to the extreme left of a lane in stationary traffic, when all the other vehicles are in the centre of the lane despite (or probably because of) the stream of cyclists they obstruct and which have to move out to filter past on right to go around them and then move back left to continue filtering

Everybody should be to the left and the cyclists should overtake on the right of them (if they feel it is safe, of course).

Kim_kim

This genuinely did happen.

I was coming out of the village shops today, there is a small parking area directly outside, followed by the pavement, then the road.

I had parked on the road (the opposite side of the road) being Sunday there was a space free in the park you are allowed to park in (takes 3 cars).

There was a million cyclists going through the village, much more than most, must have been something going on.

Anyway as I came out there was a load of them going past, I had to walk over the parking bays to get to the pavement - as I stepped onto the pavement one of them suddenly left the road & hopped onto the pavement about 5 foot from me.
I had an operation less than 4 weeks ago & I had 5 abdominal cuts, I'm still feeling not as robust as usual & it scared the life out of me!
The pavement is only about 4 foot wide.

I swore as he nearly collided with me, the shock of it, I wasn't expecting it. He shouted something at me then.

If he'd had a reg plate I would have tried to get his number to report him to the police.
There was no reason for him to mount the pavement all the others were on the road. I don't know if he was trying to undertake them or what.

custardy

prowla wrote: »

Well, who cares where precisely they are in their lane, if nobody's moving and they're not in anybody's way.
Heck. you could argue that they're leaving a gap for cycles to get through.

Well I'm glad we sorted out all this keep left guff.