I will knock you out ! BBCs Jeremy Vine films woman driver`s shocking road rage

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I think it would be a good idea to sentence motorists nicked for cycle related offences to 1000 miles riding a bike. It's a simple enough proposition to fit a tamper-proof cycle computer to the bike, linked with an ankle tag to prevent someone else doing the miles. With GPS it would be simple enough to require that some of the miles are ridden through the town centre during the rush hour, too.

Norman_Castle

Johno100 wrote: »

And that is perfectly permissible under the Highway Code. Unfortunately the lycra elite are likely to interpret that as an attempt to intimidate a vulnerable road user and more evidence of prejudice against their 'out group'.

90% of horn use aimed at anyone is normally a judgemental complaint rather than advising others of your presence so its not surprising if cyclists interpret it as a complaint rather than a cautionary warning. Often when I ring my bell to warn pedestrians I'm there its viewed as aggressive and pushy.

Keep_pedalling

Johno100 wrote: »

And that is perfectly permissible under the Highway Code. Unfortunately the lycra elite are likely to interpret that as an attempt to intimidate a vulnerable road user and more evidence of prejudice against their 'out group'.

No, a short toot to let us now you are their is fine and will be be treated as a fair warning by the vast majority of riders,

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Norman_Castle wrote: »

Often when I ring my bell to warn pedestrians I'm there its viewed as aggressive and pushy.

I find that flicking the brake levers a few times with a loud click usually works, and doesn't feel quite so impatient.

Norman_Castle

jack_pott wrote: »

I find that flicking the brake levers a few times with a loud click usually works, and doesn't feel quite so impatient.

I used to do that but got tired of hearing "Where's your bell?" so got a bell to silence the miserable minority. 99p well spent. A surprising amount of pedestrians thank me for using a bell.

custardy

Norman_Castle wrote: »

I used to do that but got tired of hearing "Where's your bell?" so got a bell to silence the miserable minority. 99p well spent. A surprising amount of pedestrians thank me for using a bell.

My preferred choice is a brass bell.
It gives a long 'ting',so can be used further away giving plenty of warning.

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Johno100 wrote: »

Yawn...that's the view of Ian walker a pro-cycling academic with an obvious chip on his shoulder. A white, middle aged, middle class professional talking about prejudice.:rotfl:

West Midlands Police have obviously got a chip on their shoulder too:

"for those who will no doubt be spitting out their finest percolated roasted bean brew at this moment screaming 'what about the cyclists !' well……statistical analysis shows they aren’t to blame, innocent in the majority of KSI collisions it would be a waste of our time, and thus public time and money to concentrate on cyclist behaviour. The figures speak for themselves…….driver’s don’t let your prejudices get in the way of the truth"

"Cyclists don’t cause us, as an organisation, problems, that’s because they aren’t causing our communities problems, they aren’t killing nearly 100 people on our regions roads as mechanically propelled vehicles currently do.........Bad cycling is an 'irritant' to the wider community rather than a danger"

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Norman_Castle wrote: »

I used to do that but got tired of hearing "Where's your bell?"

I once had a woman suggest I should put oil on my brakes when she was startled by the squeal.

daivid

Johno100 wrote: »

And that is perfectly permissible under the Highway Code. Unfortunately the lycra elite are likely to interpret that as an attempt to intimidate a vulnerable road user and more evidence of prejudice against their 'out group'.

Quite the opposite if done as described I'm all for it. Its very rare, a couple of weeks ago when out on the bike a car gave two quick pips as it closed in (50m away I would guess) then passed wide and safe. I'm more than happy with drivers who do such.

prowla

Norman_Castle wrote: »

Viewing a highway from kerb to kerb, which rule in the Highway Code tells you not to drive on the right?

I'm not sure I quite understand your question, but rules 127-132 detail the rules regarding road markings, including broken lines, solid lines and hatched markings; they say when you may cross them into the other (oncoming) side of the road.