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Labour want to ignore the will of the people...
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The question has already been asked and answered; it doesn't need to be re-run.
Yes.
ONE QUESTION WAS ASKED.
But following on from that question, we don't know what the plan is further. How is this hard to understand?
Tell me what you want brexit to look like. I'll tell you what I want brexit to look like. Then we'll see if there is common ground. If not, who wins? Which version should the government pursue?0 -
What I am saying, is that we do not know what brexit should look like. And so, whatever deal the current government starts to pursue may or may not be what most people actually want.
What I'm really interested to see is what happens if the best deal team Brexit can negotiate is to keep free-movement of people, pay into the EU, and conform to EU legislation. A situation that even some of the most ardent Brexiteers would see as worse than simply staying in then what happens?
Do we go ahead with leaving on terms that even the most vocally anti-EU disagree with, do we not go ahead, do we go with the 'nuclear' option of leaving with no accepted agreement with the EU at all?Having a signature removed for mentioning the removal of a previous signature. Blackwhite bellyfeel double plus good...0 -
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I don't know how many more times or different ways I can state the same thing. I am not saying we aren't going to leave the EU or that I wish to revert the result of the referendum. I never advocated a second referendum when other people were discussing it.
What I am saying, is that we do not know what brexit should look like. And so, whatever deal the current government starts to pursue may or may not be what most people actually want.
I will be happy if the current government decides that brexit looks like obtaining access to the single market and signing up to free movement. I don't particularly care if they have to agree to conforming to EU legislation or not, or monetary contributions or not. Both could be enforced and I wouldn't mind.
And is that what brexit looks like to others? If this is the deal the government pursues, will you (the people contributing to this thread) be relaxed about that and move on with your lives? Or does that not represent what brexit looks like to you? How will you get across your view on what brexit looks like?
how are views normally transmitted to government?0 -
The terms of the brexit is all to play for. I will support a politician who wants to stay as close to being in the EU as possible with regards to the terms agreed. So technically we may have brexitted but with as few changes as possible. That's what I want and will campaign for. The vote was 51 - 49....so close which indicates to me its all to play for. Add in people were lied to........... they thought they were voting to reduce immigration .....yes all to play for. Did you really think remainers would just accept the result and go away and leave things to Boris, Davis and Fox.......'fraid not!
I voted remain. I have just accept that people voted leave because they no longer want to be part of the EU. And that means no close relationship which is the worst of both worlds."Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" - Confucius0 -
What I'm really interested to see is what happens if the best deal team Brexit can negotiate is to keep free-movement of people, pay into the EU, and conform to EU legislation. A situation that even some of the most ardent Brexiteers would see as worse than simply staying in then what happens?
Do we go ahead with leaving on terms that even the most vocally anti-EU disagree with, do we not go ahead, do we go with the 'nuclear' option of leaving with no accepted agreement with the EU at all?
why do you consider trading with the EU on the same basis as the rest of the world (USA, Aus, S Korea, China, India etc) as 'nuclear ' option. I think you are taking the threat fo WW3 a little too seriously0 -
What I'm really interested to see is what happens if the best deal team Brexit can negotiate is to keep free-movement of people, pay into the EU, and conform to EU legislation. A situation that even some of the most ardent Brexiteers would see as worse than simply staying in then what happens?
Do we go ahead with leaving on terms that even the most vocally anti-EU disagree with, do we not go ahead, do we go with the 'nuclear' option of leaving with no accepted agreement with the EU at all?
You've hit the nail of the head. The government knows the light option is a can of worms. Any political party would be mad to implement it. Labour and Conservatives are still recovering from the last referendum."Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" - Confucius0 -
Yes.
ONE QUESTION WAS ASKED.
But following on from that question, we don't know what the plan is further. How is this hard to understand?
Tell me what you want brexit to look like. I'll tell you what I want brexit to look like. Then we'll see if there is common ground. If not, who wins? Which version should the government pursue?
What I want brexit to look like isn't a realistic option. Do you think 27 other countries should also offer refereda before they let their governments agree on the multilateral agreement which the UK will negotiate?"Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" - Confucius0 -
Do we go ahead with leaving on terms that even the most vocally anti-EU disagree with, do we not go ahead, do we go with the 'nuclear' option of leaving with no accepted agreement with the EU at all?
Nuclear option please. EU countries have stuff that we want and we have stuff that EU countries want. Far more competent autocrats than the Eurocrats have tried to stand in the way of free trade and failed. Leaving with no accepted agreement would be just like Brexit itself - initial panic and hysteria followed by a swift return to normality. Hell, the worst that could happen would be that the readjustment of Britain's exports and imports caused a recession, and we were told that was inevitable anyway, so what is there left to fear.0 -
What I want brexit to look like isn't a realistic option. Do you think 27 other countries should also offer refereda before they let their governments agree on the multilateral agreement which the UK will negotiate?
I don't agree. I think that less than half of the people in the UK want to see a brexit with no free movement of people and no single market access.
So for me, that is the realistic option. EDIT: By that I mean, keeping free movement and single market access.0 -
I don't agree. I think that less than half of the people in the UK want to see a brexit with no free movement of people and no single market access.
So for me, that is the realistic option. EDIT: By that I mean, keeping free movement and single market access.
It is a somewhat eccentric view of what leaving the EU might mean but I suspect the usual vested interests will ensure that leave doesn't mean leave0
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