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Hotel room was to hot to sleep so we left but director won't refund

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  • How do you know this seeing as the actual statistics for deaths caused by the heat weren't broken down to include babies.
    There was however, a 5.9% increase in deaths of people in the 0-14 age range so it's entirely possible that some of these were babies.


    I think a lot of those deaths were down to drowning. Happens every time we get spells of hot weather, kids think the quarry or river looks a good place to play
  • stayed in hotel the other day and was hot - was our fault though as we knew it didnt have AC - saved me 60 quid on the premier inn price though
  • daytona0
    daytona0 Posts: 2,358 Forumite
    Sarahjones wrote: »
    Just to let you know I am from Pakistan
    I travel back every year with children throughout the summer period.
    The difference in 3rd world countries is the houses are built different
    1. In the village with no electricity u sleep outside which allows for cooking and ventilation.
    2. In the city house we sleep on balconies, terraces or have a cooler/ac/fan on.
    So not twaddle, my knowledge doesn't lack but like I said this wasn't my home.

    And you don't get dehydrated by drinking more you can't keep waking a baby to breast feed them to rehydrate. And when my mum had us in heat of summer we were covered in damp mosquitos bets to keep cool. Just incase you wonder how they do that abroad

    British hotels have been designed with the idea that it is insanely more likely to be cold than it is to be hot throughout the year, so we don't need our houses built in the same style as ones in Pakistan (though you seem to suggest that people sleep outside in some capacity, instead of benefiting from any particular house design).

    So it is not a reasonable expectation, in my eyes, that all hotels have air conditioning. Just a bit of ventilation (window which opens) and a contingency (desk fan - good on them!).

    The only way you can go forward in this complaint is to seek out the minimum legal requirements for a hotel. If it states that they should have air con or a bigger fan as a legal minimum then you have a case. Otherwise, you have nothing. You've just threw money down the drain.

    As for the dehydration issue, you travel to Pakistan every year with children. Is it thus the responsibility of the Pakistani government to ensure that your child is hydrated? Or is it yours? The answer to that may shed some light on the hotel issue :)
  • Sarahjones wrote: »
    The in room advice was to drink water and put the fan on to cool the room. There was no fan in the room and when room service bought it up it was a 9 inch desk fan. It was not going to cool the room.
    A 9" fan wouldn't cool the room nor would an 18" fan. All it would do is to circulate the warm air.

    However, if the fan is pointing in the direction of damp, sweaty skin, the airflow over the sweat would cause it to evaporate slightly and it is the evaporation that would cause cooling of the sweaty person.
  • hollydays
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    Tripadviser would be worth consulting
    Next time. No doubt it would have warned you , or told you which rooms to avoid.
  • arcon5 wrote: »
    If a child fell out of a window the hotel would most certainly be investigated. They like any other business have obligations and if a guest is injured in such a way they wouldn't necessarily be free from risk of prosecution!

    Your comments are very naive, in the absence of safety catches it leaves two possibilities:

    Leave windows closed which wouldn't be safe in such heats with young children

    Open windows and expose young children to unnecessary risk


    In the case of the latter you can't seriously be suggesting a parent stay awake all night to ensure their child's safety. At least in their own home they can pick and choose which Windows to leave open and take steps to prevent a child being able to get up to window height. You hardly have this option in a hotel, where usually windows are within very reachable heights.


    I suspect you don't have children from your naivety and ignorance. And if you do have kids then I need to find the shocked emoticon!!

    .

    Yes i am suggesting that parents do exactly that - or parent their child. Actually, I would rather the window restrictors be such that you can disable them if you choose - thereby taking a decision as an adult to have them or not. if you disable them, and your child falls out - it is your fault and no one elses

    I don't see why the majority of hotel guests who do not have children should suffer because of the percentage that do.

    Having windows that only open 2-3 inches is no better than having them permanently sealed.
  • daytona0
    daytona0 Posts: 2,358 Forumite
    Yes i am suggesting that parents do exactly that - or parent their child. Actually, I would rather the window restrictors be such that you can disable them if you choose - thereby taking a decision as an adult to have them or not. if you disable them, and your child falls out - it is your fault and no one elses

    I don't see why the majority of hotel guests who do not have children should suffer because of the percentage that do.

    Having windows that only open 2-3 inches is no better than having them permanently sealed.

    But that brings in the whole blame culture thing.

    What if the last guest forgets to lock the windows after use, and then the minimum wage cleaners fails to notice? The hotel may well be liable in those circumstances.

    So simple solution is to have them open very slightly.

    Second possible solution is to force people to have to go to the front desk for a key. This gives the hotel greater control in monitoring what windows have been opened etc.

    The only point which should be raised is whether or not the hotel have met the minimum legal requirements.
  • missbiggles1
    missbiggles1 Posts: 17,481 Forumite
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    I always thought the window locks were to keep out thieves, not to stop children falling out.
  • paddyrg
    paddyrg Posts: 13,543 Forumite
    I always thought the window locks were to keep out thieves, not to stop children falling out.

    On 14th floor, I'd guess it's to prevent falling more ;-)
  • pelirocco
    pelirocco Posts: 8,275 Forumite
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    Its the crazy new advice not to give babies water . I was told it was because babies may take water and not milk and starve .....or some such twaddle


    I am amazed my children survived tbh


    OP its a learning experience , I stayed in hotels and its been too hot to sleep , Ive stayed in hotels where I have found the beds uncomfortable ......Ive learnt not to stay in those ones again lol
    Vuja De - the feeling you'll be here later
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