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Hotel room was to hot to sleep so we left but director won't refund

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  • This !!!!es me off no end. It's the parents responsibility to ensure heir Childs safety. I don't see why I should have to broil to death in a green house with no ventilation just because some people are too !!!!less to parent their kids properly.

    If a small child did fall out the parents should be prosecuted for neglect - it's not the hotels responsibility

    Totally agree.

    But when you've got people like the OP that want to try and blame the hotel for their babies dehydration - Can you blame businesses for taking extra precautions. Unfortunately we now live in a blame culture.
    If we had been daft and followed the hotel advice sheet in the room of drinking more and sleeping with less layers and the baby had dehydrated and ended up in hospital would the hotel be liable?
  • arcon5
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    This !!!!es me off no end. It's the parents responsibility to ensure heir Childs safety. I don't see why I should have to broil to death in a green house with no ventilation just because some people are too !!!!less to parent their kids properly.

    If a small child did fall out the parents should be prosecuted for neglect - it's not the hotels responsibility

    If a child fell out of a window the hotel would most certainly be investigated. They like any other business have obligations and if a guest is injured in such a way they wouldn't necessarily be free from risk of prosecution!

    Your comments are very naive, in the absence of safety catches it leaves two possibilities:

    Leave windows closed which wouldn't be safe in such heats with young children

    Open windows and expose young children to unnecessary risk


    In the case of the latter you can't seriously be suggesting a parent stay awake all night to ensure their child's safety. At least in their own home they can pick and choose which Windows to leave open and take steps to prevent a child being able to get up to window height. You hardly have this option in a hotel, where usually windows are within very reachable heights.


    I suspect you don't have children from your naivety and ignorance. And if you do have kids then I need to find the shocked emoticon!!

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  • usefulmale
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    Sarahjones wrote: »
    I'm not sure why people post on here? I was hoping for helpful advice not a bashing

    1. The hotel room was £130 but I don't think price is the issue here
    2. Hotel room windows do not open more than 2 inches and a 9inch drag fan is not going to drag in any air.
    3. If we had been daft and followed the hotel advice sheet in the room of drinking more and sleeping with less layers and the baby had dehydrated and ended up in hospital would the hotel be liable?

    So really my advice was at what point does duty of care start and stop.

    At home you fling open windows, put the fans on and cool the room. This is not my home

    Lastly being a hotel it can't have been the first time in 30 years the hotel rooms have got hot and the fan and Windows were inadequate

    You're talking twaddle, woman. How do you think babies survive in proper hot countries without access to electricity for even a 9 inch desktop fan?

    And how on earth can you get dehydrated by drinking MORE?
  • Hintza
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    Sarahjones wrote: »
    If we had been daft and followed the hotel advice sheet in the room of drinking more and sleeping with less layers and the baby had dehydrated and ended up in hospital would the hotel be liable?

    So really my advice was at what point does duty of care start and stop.

    Best not travel to the tropics then.

    I don't know how we kept the children alive, but somehow we managed.
  • Hintza
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    Sarahjones wrote: »
    Is there anything we can do?

    Yes suck it up. You aren't getting a refund.
  • visidigi
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    Sarahjones wrote: »
    I'm not sure why people post on here? I was hoping for helpful advice not a bashing

    1. The hotel room was £130 but I don't think price is the issue here
    2. Hotel room windows do not open more than 2 inches and a 9inch drag fan is not going to drag in any air.
    3. If we had been daft and followed the hotel advice sheet in the room of drinking more and sleeping with less layers and the baby had dehydrated and ended up in hospital would the hotel be liable?

    So really my advice was at what point does duty of care start and stop.

    At home you fling open windows, put the fans on and cool the room. This is not my home

    Lastly being a hotel it can't have been the first time in 30 years the hotel rooms have got hot and the fan and Windows were inadequate

    You have a baby.

    heath and safety forbid windows from opening to put the baby at risk.

    You cant have your cake and eat it I am afraid...
  • Undervalued
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    edited 23 August 2016 at 8:41PM
    Sarahjones wrote: »
    I'm not sure why people post on here? I was hoping for helpful advice not a bashing

    1. The hotel room was £130 but I don't think price is the issue here
    2. Hotel room windows do not open more than 2 inches and a 9inch drag fan is not going to drag in any air.
    3. If we had been daft and followed the hotel advice sheet in the room of drinking more and sleeping with less layers and the baby had dehydrated and ended up in hospital would the hotel be liable?

    So really my advice was at what point does duty of care start and stop.

    At home you fling open windows, put the fans on and cool the room. This is not my home

    Lastly being a hotel it can't have been the first time in 30 years the hotel rooms have got hot and the fan and Windows were inadequate

    Or did you just want people to agree with you? It seems the majority do not.

    I do not think you can reasonably expect every hotel in the UK to have air conditioning in every room. If that was important to you then you should really have checked before booking.

    The hotel would only be at fault if, for example, the heating was faulty so the radiators were scalding hot and couldn't be turned off.

    Regarding your last paragraph, thirty years ago far fewer hotels would have had air conditioning than now and thirty years before that I doubt if it had been invented. Somehow though people managed without wanting to sue every business they dealt with.
  • Just to let you know I am from Pakistan
    I travel back every year with children throughout the summer period.
    The difference in 3rd world countries is the houses are built different
    1. In the village with no electricity u sleep outside which allows for cooking and ventilation.
    2. In the city house we sleep on balconies, terraces or have a cooler/ac/fan on.
    So not twaddle, my knowledge doesn't lack but like I said this wasn't my home.

    And you don't get dehydrated by drinking more you can't keep waking a baby to breast feed them to rehydrate. And when my mum had us in heat of summer we were covered in damp mosquitos bets to keep cool. Just incase you wonder how they do that abroad
  • And I ment they should have bigger fans (12-15) inches that may have a hope in circulating air.

    And I don't think telling someone to sue God or the weather man is a differing opinion and if someone told you this situation in a work office I would be damned if you got such a reply. That's not a nice way of differing opinion. I just thought it would be a nicer place to get advice
  • mije1983
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    Sarahjones wrote: »
    And I ment they should have bigger fans (12-15) inches that may have a hope in circulating air.

    And I don't think telling someone to sue God or the weather man is a differing opinion and if someone told you this situation in a work office I would be damned if you got such a reply. That's not a nice way of differing opinion. I just thought it would be a nicer place to get advice


    The difference between a 9 inch or 12 inch fan is going to be negligible, especially when it would only be circulating warm air anyway. If it was THAT hot, a fan wouldn't really have cut it for you.

    Comparing a hotel to an office isn't exactly like for like is it? For obvious reasons.

    Unless the hotel was at fault (advertised air con, had faulty heating etc) then I think you need to move on from this, chalk it up to experience (or the weather) and stop letting it get to you so much.
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