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Brexit means Brexit

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  • BobQ wrote: »
    Congratulations on the most purile post in the thread. Still does not answer the question.

    If you look at the result of the thread poll, it seems that there are things the EU could do which might change the mind of quite a few people.

    It was a simple question!

    Here is another simple question;

    Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

    The answer was pretty straight forward too.

    Everyone expected the EU to offer a last minute upgrade to Cameron's so called reforms, they did not, they were too tight. They could not even give the man what he asked for in the first place... which wasn't much.
    This served only to prove people like Nigel Farage right when he said all along that you cannot reform the EU.

    If Cameron would have got proper controls on immigration, made our courts supreme over the laws that govern us and secured an enhanced rebate then we could have all remained, but he did not even ask, he thought it would be better to ask for little and get less than to ask for what Britain needed and get told no, which the EU certainly would have told him no because their modus operandi dictates it.

    I find it remarkable that people will like you would sell this country down the river for the sake of convenience. Future generations may never know just how close they were to being denied democracy, but we can measure it in votes and percentages... need I remind you? I think I do here it is;

    Leave 17,410,742 51.89%
    Remain 16,141,241 48.11%

    if we had remained our Westminster parliament would be no more authoritative in relation to the EU commission than Lincolnshire county council is over Westminster, reduced to a devolved state.

    No wonder remain opted for project fear you cannot form a positive argument for that shambles they call the EU.
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  • BobQ
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    how long was the EU funding guarenteed for ?
    do you have a reference for the opinion that funding from the EU fund was weighted in favour of the UK
    can you say how much of this funding went to UK citizens and how much to EU citizens (while working in the UK)

    Please do not be lazy, look it up yourself.
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • CLAPTON
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    BobQ wrote: »
    Please do not be lazy, look it up yourself.

    I know the answer.

    I often ask questions that I know the answer to, so that the ignorant can review their own bigoted ignorance in private
    How does it work for you?
  • BobQ
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    Herzlos wrote: »
    What about the un-committed EU sponsored funding? Or any ongoing funding?

    What about it?
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • BobQ
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    I know the answer.

    I often ask questions that I know the answer to, so that the ignorant can review their own bigoted ignorance in private
    How does it work for you?

    I will follow your advice and and ask more pointless questions on your posts. Does that advance the quality of the debate?
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • CLAPTON
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    BobQ wrote: »
    I will follow your advice and and ask more pointless questions on your posts. Does that advance the quality of the debate?

    By all means ask questions about my posts : I will do my best to answer them.

    I would prefer they were sensible questions even if you know the answer as they might be helpful to oher people so wouldn't be pointless.
  • BobQ
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    By all means ask questions about my posts : I will do my best to answer them.

    I would prefer they were sensible questions even if you know the answer as they might be helpful to oher people so wouldn't be pointless.

    "The UK is one of the largest recipients of
    research funding in the EU and, although
    national contributions to the EU budget are not
    itemised, analyses suggest that the UK receives
    a greater amount of EU research funding than it
    contributes. The UK Office of National Statistics
    (ONS) report an indicative figure for the UK’s
    contribution to EU research and development
    of €5.4 billion over the period 2007 – 2013.
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    During this time, the UK received €8.8 billion
    in direct EU funding for research, development
    and innovation activities."

    Funding usually goes to institutions not individuals.
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • BobQ
    BobQ Posts: 11,181 Forumite
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    Everyone expected the EU to offer a last minute upgrade to Cameron's so called reforms, they did not, they were too tight.

    I did not expect any last minute upgrades.
    This served only to prove people like Nigel Farage right when he said all along that you cannot reform the EU.

    Why do you keep going over the referendum. I accept Brexit means Brexit, I just do not have any idea what form Brexit will take.
    If Cameron would have got proper controls on immigration, made our courts supreme over the laws that govern us and secured an enhanced rebate then we could have all remained, but he did not even ask, he thought it would be better to ask for little and get less than to ask for what Britain needed and get told no, which the EU certainly would have told him no because their modus operandi dictates it.

    Farage would not have been satisfied whatever the EU did.
    I find it remarkable that people will like you would sell this country down the river for the sake of convenience.

    Quite unnecessary personal vitriol. If you cannot accept that people are entitled to another opinion it is you that undermines democracy.

    At least the vote means that the NHS will be getting £350m extra a week. You should focus on the positive!
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • CLAPTON
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    BobQ wrote: »
    "The UK is one of the largest recipients of
    research funding in the EU and, although
    national contributions to the EU budget are not
    itemised, analyses suggest that the UK receives
    a greater amount of EU research funding than it
    contributes. The UK Office of National Statistics
    (ONS) report an indicative figure for the UK’s
    contribution to EU research and development
    of €5.4 billion over the period 2007 – 2013.
    29
    During this time, the UK received €8.8 billion
    in direct EU funding for research, development
    and innovation activities."

    Funding usually goes to institutions not individuals.

    all research is done by individuals : UK research institutes are stacked with EU nationals (nothing wrong with that of course)
  • BobQ
    BobQ Posts: 11,181 Forumite
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    all research is done by individuals : UK research institutes are stacked with EU nationals (nothing wrong with that of course)

    Your question (your question) was where the funding went not who did the work.

    I have quoted data to address your challenge. Are you still suggesting the information is wrong?
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
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