Landlord's Obligations - Electricity Installations

Cammo66

thesaint wrote: »

This is what I found when I searched for the word "regularly" in that document:



Please, please, please can you copy and paste the part you are discussing, or give the part of the legislation.

I agree with this, it is only the landlord's obligation to ensure that they are working on the first day of tenancy. It is then the tenant's duty to maintain the alarms.

AdrianC

Cammo66 wrote: »

The electrician that was in attendance for other issues confirmed that they weren't working.

The power supply to them's not working? Or the power's fine, but the alarms aren't working?

Cammo66

AdrianC wrote: »

The power supply to them's not working? Or the power's fine, but the alarms aren't working?

That I can't be definitive on! The electrician inspected them, and advised the landlord that they need to be replaced due to their age and that they were inoperative. That would have been April this year. Landlord tried to arrange replacement with one battery operated smoke alarm, but electrician has informed him that it isn't acceptable.

AdrianC

One battery-operated smoke alarm per floor would be acceptable, legally.

They do not need to be replaced due to age alone.

thesaint

Cammo66 wrote: »

I agree with this, it is only the landlord's obligation to ensure that they are working on the first day of tenancy. It is then the tenant's duty to maintain the alarms.

GwylimT was very sure this is not the case, but has gone silent when asked(for the 3rd or 4th time)for the legislation.

Cammo66 wrote: »

Landlord tried to arrange replacement with one battery operated smoke alarm, but electrician has informed him that it isn't acceptable.

I am not agreeing with the electrician on this one.

GwylimT

thesaint wrote: »

This is what I found when I searched for the word "regularly" in that document:



Please, please, please can you copy and paste the part you are discussing, or give the part of the legislation.

If tenants find that their alarm(s) are not in working order during the tenancy, they are advised to arrange the replacement of the batteries or the alarm itself with the relevant landlord.

thesaint

GwylimT wrote: »

If tenants find that their alarm(s) are not in working order during the tenancy, they are advised to arrange the replacement of the batteries or the alarm itself with the relevant landlord.

Sweet Baby Jesus!

Cammo66

AdrianC wrote: »

One battery-operated smoke alarm per floor would be acceptable, legally.

They do not need to be replaced due to age alone.

Recommendations are that smoke alarms are replaced after ten years - and the dates are shown on the alarms. I believe they are the sealed battery type. I would take a photo of them but am at work at the moment!

AdrianC

Yes, I can well believe smoke alarm manufacturers recommend you give them more money every ten years.

I've never heard of a "sealed battery" smoke alarm - every single one I've ever seen has had a 9v battery, either as the primary power source or as a back-up for mains.

thesaint - Fit the alarms with a rechargeable 9v, and leave a charger in a kitchen drawer...

Cammo66

AdrianC wrote: »

Yes, I can well believe smoke alarm manufacturers recommend you give them more money every ten years.

I've never heard of a "sealed battery" smoke alarm - every single one I've ever seen has had a 9v battery, either as the primary power source or as a back-up for mains.

thesaint - Fit the alarms with a rechargeable 9v, and leave a charger in a kitchen drawer...

Advice from London Fire Brigade:

How to make sure your smoke alarm works

• Test your smoke alarm every week
• Change the battery when the low battery warning operates
• Never disconnect or take the batteries out of your alarm if it goes off by mistake
• Do not try to remove batteries in 10 year smoke alarms as they cannot be removed or replaced

I have a feeling that the alarms in situ are the 10 year variety, wired in.