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Landlord's Obligations - Electricity Installations

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  • GwylimT
    GwylimT Posts: 6,530 Forumite
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    thesaint wrote: »
    I can't find it in the 1st link(searched for the word regularly), and the 2nd link doesn't work for me.
    Hence me saying:



    Failing that, tell me which part of the legislation you are referring to(i.e Part 4 Sec 7).

    Hmm working for me, i'll link the actual yougov page rather than the pdf.

    Give this one ago

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/smoke-and-carbon-monoxide-alarms-explanatory-booklet-for-landlords
  • Cammo66
    Cammo66 Posts: 18 Forumite
    Pixie5740 wrote: »
    Is the LL breaching "The Smoke and Carbon Monoxide Alarm (England) Regulations 2015?" Do the smoke alarms need to be replaced just because they are over 10 years old? Surely the important thing is that they work?

    How have you contracted your landlord about the repairs? In writing to the address for the serving of notices given in your tenancy agreement.

    No, nothing you've said so far means that you can end your tenancy during the fixed term.


    No inspection was carried out at the start of the new tenancy, that is a breach. They don't work. He tried to replace them with a battery operated one, but the electrician who was working on other issues has told him that as the existing ones are wired in then they need to be replaced like for like.


    Contact with the landlord on all issues has been in writing, via email.
  • Cammo66
    Cammo66 Posts: 18 Forumite
    GwylimT wrote: »
    Do the smoke alarms work?
    Do the carbon monoxide alarms work?

    The landlord must keep these in working order and have them checked regularly.


    The smoke / heat alarms don't work. No Carbon Monoxide alarm as no solid fuel appliances.
  • GwylimT
    GwylimT Posts: 6,530 Forumite
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    Cammo66 wrote: »
    No inspection was carried out at the start of the new tenancy, that is a breach. They don't work. He tried to replace them with a battery operated one, but the electrician who was working on other issues has told him that as the existing ones are wired in then they need to be replaced like for like.


    Contact with the landlord on all issues has been in writing, via email.

    They don't need to be wired. The check is carried out when the tenancy starts, even if that is before you moved in, so they may have been checked without you knowing.

    Wired systems tend to have batteries (ours does anyway), when did you last change the batteries?
  • GwylimT
    GwylimT Posts: 6,530 Forumite
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    Cammo66 wrote: »
    The smoke / heat alarms don't work. No Carbon Monoxide alarm as no solid fuel appliances.

    Are they dual smoke/heat alarms? Heat alarms alone are not allowed unless a smoke alarm is also in that room.
  • thesaint
    thesaint Posts: 4,324 Forumite
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    GwylimT wrote: »
    Hmm working for me, i'll link the actual yougov page rather than the pdf.

    Give this one ago

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/smoke-and-carbon-monoxide-alarms-explanatory-booklet-for-landlords


    This is what I found when I searched for the word "regularly" in that document:
    After the landlord’s test on the first day of the tenancy, tenants should take responsibility for their own safety and test all alarms regularly to make sure they are in working order.

    Please, please, please can you copy and paste the part you are discussing, or give the part of the legislation.
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  • Cammo66
    Cammo66 Posts: 18 Forumite
    GwylimT wrote: »
    They don't need to be wired. The check is carried out when the tenancy starts, even if that is before you moved in, so they may have been checked without you knowing.

    Wired systems tend to have batteries (ours does anyway), when did you last change the batteries?


    Hmm, they haven't worked since I moved in, and the landlord has told me he assumed that the estate agent would arrange inspection prior to me moving in. The other problem is not being able to access them! 20 foot ceilings, so my step ladder does not reach.
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    Cammo66 wrote: »
    Hmm, they haven't worked since I moved in, and the landlord has told me he assumed that the estate agent would arrange inspection prior to me moving in. The other problem is not being able to access them! 20 foot ceilings, so my step ladder does not reach.
    So how do you know they're not working, if you're not testing them?
  • Cammo66
    Cammo66 Posts: 18 Forumite
    GwylimT wrote: »
    Are they dual smoke/heat alarms? Heat alarms alone are not allowed unless a smoke alarm is also in that room.


    The alarm in the kitchen is dual smoke / heat. The other alarms (lounge, both bedrooms, two in hallway) are all smoke alarms.
  • Cammo66
    Cammo66 Posts: 18 Forumite
    AdrianC wrote: »
    So how do you know they're not working, if you're not testing them?


    The electrician that was in attendance for other issues confirmed that they weren't working.
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