I want to be made redundant!!!

stebiz

ceridwen wrote: »

Am also not sure that was the worlds wisest idea! hoping I'm wrong on that one.....

As someone who has been/ indeed still is on the receiving end of management tactics to get shot of staff..... they wait and they wait and they wait...... they figure they are "bigger" than you and you'll give them a chance to get shot of you and say it was your fault sooner or later. It aint an easy game ...I know from personal experience. You say "someone has to break the ice" - can quite see your point.... but I tend to feel its best to let them know your intentions "through the grapevine"... nothing in writing, nothing they can use as proof against you and - if all else fails - then start talking about "similar" situations and what you think the "friend" you know would do in those circumstances in an approving sort of way!

They will know whats what - but cant get you for it.

I take your point too. I hope I have made the right decision. Only time will tell. I have had no support from this company over my stress. In fact exactly the opposite. They were making my life a living hell. My health is improving all the time now and I have indicated I am willing to go back but it might be in 'both our interests'.........

I will let you know how it goes on. I did also mention in my letter that if I wasn't recompensed fully for the time off (even when sick pay runs out) I would consider taking to an industrial tribunal. How much is it worth to a company to get shut of somebody who is a 'thorn in your side'??

Stebiz

Terrylw1

Hi Stebiz,

Firstly, get the health side sorted. I've been there myself in a similiar situation where I spent over a year asking if I had a job (even though I was employed on a fulltime contract) because the projects I was working on were due to come to a close and a company re-structure was going on. I was told over the course of that year that there was no place for me in the organisation but they woould not go down the redundancy route.

They just re-write your job description to get around that and as long as they don't demote you in the process, perfectly fine and little you can do.

Sort your stress because stress has a terrible habit of sneaking up on you and taking over your life as full depression.

It's difficult to comment reading a lot of posts in this thread as I can understand the various sides of the argument.

On one hand, you appear very much against being in a larger organisation because you are unsuited to more hands on control and maybe this makes you seem like you are only there to play the system and think of yourseld as higher thn you are because it's a state of mind based on your successful self employment. On another hand I've worked for several employers that would play very dirty tricks to get rid of you so I've said before to people - fleece them, they deserve it!

I'm not going to comment as I don't think anyone can truly understand unless they are in the predicament and there's not enough detail about the situation to understand that or impartial statements to help anyone decide.

So, I will simply say don't let the stress beat you. If you need to walk away, do it because you will feel much better and get a good nights sleep straightaway.

ceridwen

stebiz wrote: »

I take your point too. I hope I have made the right decision. Only time will tell. I have had no support from this company over my stress. In fact exactly the opposite. They were making my life a living hell. My health is improving all the time now and I have indicated I am willing to go back but it might be in 'both our interests'.........

I will let you know how it goes on. I did also mention in my letter that if I wasn't recompensed fully for the time off (even when sick pay runs out) I would consider taking to an industrial tribunal. How much is it worth to a company to get shut of somebody who is a 'thorn in your side'??

Stebiz

I see your phrase "thorn in your side" - but, in my own personal experience, your employer can regard you as being a "5 star thorn in side" - but they still wont budge - in fact my workplace feels like one long battle a lot of the time - as they try one tactic, I fight back, they try another one, I tell them I know what they are up to etc etc - basically now I'm just hanging on in there waiting for a suitable chance to leave on my terms and reminding them (via the grapevine) that I know that the fact they are having a go at me is nothing personal - they want to be rid of staff generally. They know by now that any time they come out with yet another tactic to get rid of staff generally or me personally I virtually "get out the violin and start playing Tell Me The Old Old Story" and that I will outwait them - just keep sitting there however long it takes for them to start giving out the correct terms for staff to give up their jobs on and I will take them to Tribunal if they try anything before then.

Not a good way to be - but, over the years, I have developed a "switch-off switch" - whereby I go out every lunchtime and each time I leave work (whether for lunchtime or for the day) I push that switch and remember they exist only as much as I need to in order to get myself back in there again when worktime calls again. It helps as well that I am steadily getting more and more financially straight - mortgage gone, then debt gone.... and steadily also getting nearer retirement age (pushing the "switch-off switch" gets easier once one knows that if the worst came to the worst and they DID kick me out and DID manage not to pay any compensation for doing so that I dont have vast amounts of time left before retirement in which I would have to find other work or be on the dole).

I find personally that - unless one is very highly skilled - its a pointless exercise to be focused all the time on ones awful employer - as their focus is on "shipping your job out" - whether to NMW workers in Britain or to "peanuts pay" workers in another country. They dont care a stuff - all they want is to get the work done as cheaply as possible and they figure they will wear you out before you wear them out. So - just dont let them wear you out - push that "switch-off switch".