An Evening With... Jeremy Corbyn

ruggedtoast

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

I'm still waiting for your response to getting rumbled on your virtue signalling.

You got savaged over the last few pages. Have you re-evaluated your world view in light of the realisation that Conservative voters are more charitable and effective in helping those in need than your left-wing platitudes?

Lol - I'm afraid your "savaging" is about as polemically challenging as a group of yapping schnauzers repeating the same bark ad infinitum.

I would refer to it as tedious, at worst.

ruggedtoast

setmefree2 wrote: »

I pay eye watering amounts of tax. I have also always done large amounts of charitable payroll giving. I sleep peacefully at night tbh.

I bet that toxic toastie is a net taker.

You have been very fortunate to have been elevated to a privileged position where you have been able to pay eye watering amounts of tax while other people line up at food banks.

Its now time for you to pay back.

ruggedtoast

mwpt wrote: »

I've never voted Tory. I am not saying I would not if I believed their policies more aligned with my views, because I am not dogmatic about party lines.

You are the one making the claims, you need to explain things.

Explain what things? What is it you don't understand?

The government has been following an austerity policy and slashing public spending since 2010 - in what way are you unaware of this, other than having never been affected by it, so just generally not caring, like your friends on this thread.

https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/8008

TrickyTree83

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Lol - I'm afraid your "savaging" is about as polemically challenging as a group of yapping schnauzers repeating the same bark ad infinitum.

I would refer to it as tedious, at worst.

Your arguments were countered quite conclusively.

If you want to re-distribute wealth, start with your own, lead by example. I expect Jeremy and his followers to do the same. You don't need a smartphone or a computer, sell them, give the money to the needy. Sell your transport too if you have any, you won't need them once Jeremy nationalises rail and bus networks and increases the availability and performance of these methods of transport, plus that'll be redistributing even more wealth you've accumulated. Do you have any spare room where you live? Perhaps you should open it up to someone who doesn't have a home. It doesn't matter what choices they made in life, they have less than you, give them what you've got.

Or are you a hypocrite?

You're quite clearly wrong about Conservative voters, do you have a response? An admission perhaps?

Fella

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Explain what things? What is it you don't understand?

I think the point being made is that your position contradicts itself. You simultaneously criticize the Govt for increasing debt whilst also criticizing them cutting spending.

Outside of the fantasy world some Labour MPs like to pretend exists whereby a Govt can reduce debt by spending MORE, the reality is every Govt has the choice between higher debt or lower spending.

Therefore you need to clarify your position. You're either in favour of austerity or higher debt.

TrickyTree83

Fella wrote: »

I think the point being made is that your position contradicts itself. You simultaneously criticize the Govt for increasing debt whilst also criticizing them cutting spending.

Outside of the fantasy world some Labour MPs like to pretend exists whereby a Govt can reduce debt by spending MORE, the reality is every Govt has the choice between higher debt or lower spending.

Therefore you need to clarify your position. You're either in favour of austerity or higher debt.

Does it need clarifying?

To me it looks like he wants to tax everyone to pay for social programmes, the mass re-distribution of wealth thereby not increasing debt and increasing spending.

But he won't re-distribute his own wealth. Only that of others wealthier than a particular threshold that Jeremy will determine.

bobbymotors

rugged toast

if you are so sure that you are correct, why not put your money where your mouth is?

In previous posts i have offered £5 for every £1 someone wants to bet that Corbyn will ever be prime minister.

fancy a bet?

you could give your winnings to the poor.

cells

ruggedtoast wrote: »

You have been very fortunate to have been elevated to a privileged position where you have been able to pay eye watering amounts of tax while other people line up at food banks.

Its now time for you to pay back.

you still dont understand and accept that people who hold the £8.8 trillion wealth in uk are

# the majority.

# the people likely to vote for distributing this £8.8 trillion, the young and those who dont have it are receiving it at a rate of about £200B annually. so instead of the old Tories dieing out and the young voting in the left you get a situation of poor young ones voting left converting into rich old ones voting right.

ruggedtoast

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Your arguments were countered quite conclusively.

If you want to re-distribute wealth, start with your own, lead by example. I expect Jeremy and his followers to do the same. You don't need a smartphone or a computer, sell them, give the money to the needy. Sell your transport too if you have any, you won't need them once Jeremy nationalises rail and bus networks and increases the availability and performance of these methods of transport, plus that'll be redistributing even more wealth you've accumulated. Do you have any spare room where you live? Perhaps you should open it up to someone who doesn't have a home. It doesn't matter what choices they made in life, they have less than you, give them what you've got.

Or are you a hypocrite?

You're quite clearly wrong about Conservative voters, do you have a response? An admission perhaps?

Ha, yes. Like Philip Green, Tory patron who gutted British Home Stores, robbed its workers of their pensions and parks his billions in an offshore tax haven.

Or the Directors of Lloyds, grasping for public bailouts, making hundreds of millions in profit and then closing branches and sacking hundreds of counter staff.

Meanwhile social inequality is at its worst for 30 years, the welfare state is being dismantled and the young are crippled by debt.

But thats fine, because privileged Middle Class people in the Home Counties have had a good look around the Home Counties and concluded that the privileged Middle Class is just fine.

And you can stick your Victoria sponges and your "win the most knobbly marrow tombolas."

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ruggedtoast wrote: »

You have been very fortunate to have been elevated to a privileged position where you have been able to pay eye watering amounts of tax while other people line up at food banks.

Its now time for you to pay back.

Hi Rugged.

Quick question - you really seem to have it in for folk you consider wealthy. Given that your Dear Leader appears not to consider himself wealthy, on a salary of about £138,000, a reported pension pot of £1.6m and seemingly owning a £600k property, at what level of income and asset ownership do you consider "wealthy" to begin? Is he a parasite on the neck of society too?

Careful with the answer now, I'm sure you wouldn't want to contradict your Dear Leader. If JC isn't "wealthy" on that level of economic security, he must be unbelievably incompetent with his own finances. Frankly, if he's not wealthy enough to attract your wealth envy, it will be a long, long time before you can criticise many contributors to this site, let alone demand extra taxation from them or presumably, go for the next logical step in the "envy" stakes, the confiscation of assets.

WR