An Evening With... Jeremy Corbyn

bobbymotors

ruggedtoast wrote: »

The dam is about to burst and the tyranny of Britain's right wing pensioners is going to end.

In fact, you will be sent fleeing.

so which of the 60 or so seats needed will JC take then.

mrginge

bobbymotors wrote: »

where will the money come from?

£500bn investment fund from clamping down on tax evasion and reintroducing the 50p rate.

Now who in their right mind wouldn't vote for populist garbage like that?

BobQ

ruggedtoast wrote: »

The dam is about to burst and the tyranny of Britain's right wing pensioners is going to end.

In fact, you will be sent fleeing.

Rugged you make some good points at times and then you come out with !!!! like this.

How do you tell a right wing pensioner from a left wing pensioner?

ruggedtoast

By looking on this forum?

westernpromise

ruggedtoast wrote: »

By looking on this forum?

Which Tory seats will Corbyn win?

ukcarper

ruggedtoast wrote: »

By looking on this forum?

Two or three then, unless you include people like me who have never voted Tory but don't like the direction momentum and Corbyn are taking the party and others who support centre parties.

westernpromise

The fact that UKIP and Labour party membership has gone up while Conservative party membership has fallen points unerringly to both the former parties having become more extreme, and to the latter's having become more centrist.

You don't get people who are hard-line, dogmatic and fiercely partisan in their centrist views. You don't get people who are ruthlessly tolerant, inclusive and aggressively determined to be moderate. You don't get middle-of-the-road folk who are furiously and bitterly envious of dole bludgers or of the well-off. You don't get centre-left or centre-right voters spouting Marx, Mao or Mein Kampf. There is no Trotsky of centrism to idolise. The centre-left doesn't hate other members of the centre-left more than it hates the centre-right. In fact, the centre-left and -right don't do hate.

All these are the attitudes of extremists. The bit of the political spectrum inhabited by extremists is of course its fringe extremes. It figures that the more extreme they become, the more members they would gain, but the more electorally irrelevant they become; and this is exactly what we've seen.

Cameron will be remembered for having detoxified the Conservative party by insulting its loonies into leaving, joining UKIP and hurling abuse at him. Every shriek of "LibLabCon" from a Ukipper secures more votes in the centre.

Corbyn is the antithesis not of Blair, but of Cameron. For reasons best known to Yeremiy, he has deliberately retoxified the Labour brand, and it's now back in 1982.

Moby

ruggedtoast wrote: »

The dam is about to burst and the tyranny of Britain's right wing pensioners is going to end.

In fact, you will be sent fleeing.

Starting with Brighton ehhh toastie?
Not going to work is it Too many of us behind you ready to stab you in the back at the first opportunity. Looking forward to a bit of sabotage;)

Out,_Vile_Jelly

Did anyone watch the programme about Momementum last night? I seemed to have better things to do:

-a white wash
-ironing
-cake baking (banana, ginger & golden syrup loaf)
-trimming my toenails

Malthusian

mrginge wrote: »

£500bn investment fund from clamping down on tax evasion

Which of course is a fantasy. Every government says it will raise a few billions from a clampdown on tax evasion and avoidance and none ever raise a penny. £500bn, the equivalent of the entire current HMRC tax take, to be raised by the fiscal equivalent of looking down the back of the sofa.

and reintroducing the 50p rate.

Which will reverse the gains made to the Exchequer when Osborne lowered the rate from 50p to 45p (see Laffer curve).

So Corbyn's plans will be financed through one measure that will raise precisely £0 and one measure that we know will reduce tax receipts.

Brilliant eh? Only in 2+2=5land.