So what does Theresa think?

Rinoa

Theresa May's majority is now dependent on all the ministers she's sacked.

CLAPTON

wotsthat wrote: »

I know our democracy is better than the foreign sort but don't you see the irony that we are one of the few places with an unelected second chamber and governments can only be formed after an invitation from an unelected head of state.

no more or less ironic that to contemplate the origin of trial by jury of one's peers;
doubtless many would prefer the European systems of trial by judges

Thrugelmir

Rinoa wrote: »

Theresa May's majority is now dependent on all the ministers she's sacked.

Corbyn won't have a shadow cabinet at the rate he's going. :eek:

BobQ

cells wrote: »

I'm beginning to think a 'good deal' is possible.

If the UK offers to pay £10 billion a year for access and for a stake in financial regulations (possibly a bigger say than we have today) that would seem quite a good deal for brexit supporters.

So we would pay £10b a year for something that currently costs us £8.5bn (as our net contribution?

Then we would have to spend the £4.5bn that the EU currently provides back to the UK as farming subsidies, infrastructure grants, research grants etc just to stand still.

Also for Europe they get a huge financial contribution and no disruption to their biggest customer. Sure it will look like a good deal in the UK but it should look a good deal in Europe too. Surely better than a mesh divorce at the world trade rules table and no £10 billion a year contribution. Maybe it might even be better than that maybe only a £5 billion net contribution

Yes a great deal we spend £14.5bn a year to have the same as we did before, without Freedom of Movement.

I do still believe the UK long term will be poorer without the working age population growth of migration but the above would be a good settlement with little disruption in the short and medium term.

Yes the EU might well like it, especially when we have to continue allowing immigration to fill our vacancies as well giving them more than we do at present.

Thrugelmir

BobQ wrote: »

Yes the EU might well like it, especially when we have to continue allowing immigration to fill our vacancies as well giving them more than we do at present.

The immediate concern for the EU is that without imposed import tariffs we'll buy from who ever we want. Which means more imports from outside the EU.

vivatifosi

I've said this elsewhere, but I do think May's first speech as PM was a masterstroke. She set herself out to firmly occupy the centre ground. It was designed to answer the concerns of those in middle England (and Wales)who voted for Brexit. Goodness only knows what is going on at Labour meantime. It seems to have gone totally over their heads.

BobQ

cells wrote: »

I think a good migration compromised would be to allow EU migrants in the 18-30 age group free movement. Young migrants are higher net contributors as they work 40-45 years whereas a 50 year old migrant might only be able to contribute for 15 years before needing support.

I thought the idea was to use a points system that keeps out those we do not need or want?

Thrugelmir

vivatifosi wrote: »

Goodness only knows what is going on at Labour meantime.

Until there's a credible new alternative there'll be no change. Complete lack of talent on the front bench.

Mistermeaner

Who on earth votes for Diane Abbott?

I normally watch have I got news for you on my spin bike Sunday mornings. Had to turn it off when she was on.

Thrugelmir

Mistermeaner wrote: »

Who on earth votes for Diane Abbott?

Diehards.....