So what does Theresa think?

StevieJ

May herself set out the dilemma. “The reality is that we do not know on what terms we would win access to the single market. We do know that in a negotiation we would need to make concessions in order to access it, and those concessions could well be about accepting EU regulations, over which we would have no say, making financial contributions, just as we do now, accepting free movement rules, just as we do now, or quite possibly all three combined. It is not clear why other EU member states would give Britain a better deal than they themselves enjoy.”

http://www.hl.co.uk/news/2016/7/14/whats-the-best-brexit-theresa-may-could-get-for-britain

cells

I'm beginning to think a 'good deal' is possible.

If the UK offers to pay £10 billion a year for access and for a stake in financial regulations (possibly a bigger say than we have today) that would seem quite a good deal for brexit supporters.

Also for Europe they get a huge financial contribution and no disruption to their biggest customer. Sure it will look like a good deal in the UK but it should look a good deal in Europe too. Surely better than a mesh divorce at the world trade rules table and no £10 billion a year contribution. Maybe it might even be better than that maybe only a £5 billion net contribution


I do still believe the UK long term will be poorer without the working age population growth of migration but the above would be a good settlement with little disruption in the short and medium term.

cells

I think a good migration compromised would be to allow EU migrants in the 18-30 age group free movement. Young migrants are higher net contributors as they work 40-45 years whereas a 50 year old migrant might only be able to contribute for 15 years before needing support.

mayonnaise

We do know that in a negotiation we would need to make concessions in order to access it, and those concessions could well be about accepting EU regulations, over which we would have no say, making financial contributions, just as we do now, accepting free movement rules, just as we do now, or quite possibly all three combined.

Sounds good. I just moved to stage 4 on the Kubler Ross curve. :T

http://www.catalystconsulting.co.uk/brexit-challenge-accepting-change/

kabayiri

If the EU is smart, and I believe it is, then they will know how to conduct negotiations which allow each party to go back home and claim the results as a "success for their side".

It's probably not the right time to neuter a major trading partner.

However, they may just use the Brexit to help with one of the crises they face, namely the refugee crisis.

Germany really needs to get agreement on reallocation of refugees. There doesn't seem to be a lot of support coming from the Eastern Europe countries, and this is an area where they could look towards the UK for support.

SailorSam

If she does everything she said she was going to do , in her welcoming speech outside No10 last night They'll be calling her Saint Theresa by the time the next General Election comes around.

System

Where's all the uproar for unelected officials please? Who voted for May here?

StevieJ

kabayiri wrote: »

If the EU is smart, and I believe it is, then they will know how to conduct negotiations which allow each party to go back home and claim the results as a "success for their side".

It's probably not the right time to neuter a major trading partner.

However, they may just use the Brexit to help with one of the crises they face, namely the refugee crisis.

Germany really needs to get agreement on reallocation of refugees. There doesn't seem to be a lot of support coming from the Eastern Europe countries, and this is an area where they could look towards the UK for support.

Watch that page, I thought the main reason for voting out was immigration?

Tromking

Joeskeppi wrote: »

Where's all the uproar for unelected officials please? Who voted for May here?

Remedial lessons on the mechanics of a parliamentary democracy required.

wotsthat

Tromking wrote: »

Remedial lessons on the mechanics of a parliamentary democracy required.

I know our democracy is better than the foreign sort but don't you see the irony that we are one of the few places with an unelected second chamber and governments can only be formed after an invitation from an unelected head of state.

kabayiri

StevieJ wrote: »

Watch that page, I thought the main reason for voting out was immigration?

Wasn't that European migration though?

These people are not European migrants, and are not economic migrants, so we are told.

Also, we will probably get control over where these refugees are accommodated within the UK, which is not something there was any real control over with European workers.

It could be spun many different ways.

If I were a Syrian refugee, and I had a choice of destinations : Brexit Britain or Hungary, I know where I would go.