The thread for pointless arguments about Brexit

CLAPTON

Herzlos wrote: »

Do you fancy answering the question?

I'll shoot down your tangents once you've given me a straight answer.

I don't know what would happen if 9 million left over a very short time because it is unprecedented except in times of war.
One could speculate but one needs a realistic context to formulate a realistic answer.

Herzlos

Give me a hypothetic answer.

Will we bask in the glow of cheap house prices and quiet services?

Will be be thrown into turmoil because not only do we have no doctors left, and no-one to make us curry, but we've got a total lack of tradesmen and staff in all service sectors?

Will be left with a British Utopia, or a non-functional ghost town?

TrickyTree83

9 million people are not going to leave over a very short period of time.

Out of this 9 million there will a smaller proportion who will secure jobs in the rEU and then move, such is the quality of jobs they occupy. The skilled migrants will obviously be able to move, but then on the other hand skilled migrants can be found from anywhere in the world. There just needs to be significant economic benefit to them in order to persuade them to come here. That's kind of the whole point behind the points based system, less, but better.

Herzlos

I'm not asking what happens to the 9 million, I mean what happens to the 59 million that aren't foreigners.

How would the UK get on without immigrants?

Daniel54

LoveLifeAgain wrote: »

It will be wonderful for our fishermen to get the fishing rights in our own waters back.

You might want to read this before taking that as a done deal

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jun/28/british-fishermen-warned-brexit-will-not-mean-greater-catches

TrickyTree83

Herzlos wrote: »

I'm not asking what happens to the 9 million, I mean what happens to the 59 million that aren't foreigners.

How would the UK get on without immigrants?

But that's not going to happen is it, as I explained.

A proportion of people will leave, while we would be able to relax controls to allow people to come in to replace them. That's the whole point about having control.

When it's too high you reduce the intake by increasing the controls, when it's too low you relax the controls and bring more in.

RJP33

Conrad wrote: »

Doing our own trade deals with the world, and there plenty examples of these taking a matter of months, certainly under two years, which means greater prosperity for us

This. Even a simple deal with Canada has taken the EU seven years (and counting). The UK is a very low risk country to do a trade deal with.

I'm looking forward to the new opportunities that brings business.

JACKBLACK

nkomp18 wrote: »

My company yesterday fired dozens of people because of Brexit. We are a financial institution based in Knightbsidge, in London.

As far as I can see things are already unravelling at very fast pace. Friends of mine have been racially attacked and there's anger and hostility in the air.

Usually political decisions never directly affect me, but now everyone I know including me is affected somehow and it's only in a NEGATIVE way.

Banks are using Brexit as an excuse to fire people - according to some guy who seemed to know what he was talking about on CNBC......

sounds trite but I'm sorry your friends have been racially attacked. Disgusting.

I blame the EU though. They just wouldn't listen and they have turned a tolerant society into this! I'm glad we voted Leave.

Herzlos

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

But that's not going to happen it it, as I explained.

Neither is the restriction on free movement, but that's still not what I'm asking.

I'm not talking about our ability to replace migrants, CLAPTONs argument seems to be that migrants are bad. I'm trying to get him to explain what will happen if you actually reduce the number of migrants.

JACKBLACK

enthusiasticsaver wrote: »

If I was to be very unkind about the leave voters who did not seem to know what they were voting for and why I seriously doubt some of them will be able to understand this.

What has happened that is so awful - other than your team lost?