Anger grows at The Boomers EU vandalism

Thrugelmir

Cornucopia wrote: »

(though I would say that it hasn't turned me into one of those obnoxious "everyone can do it with a bit of hard work" people).

Which places you in the camp that incomes should be equalised through a raft of welfare benefits. Rather than actually doing something productive with ones time.

warehouse

Did they ever find the missing 65% of under 25's?

mwpt

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

18-24 year olds, that's who didn't turn out.

People who can take out loans, have families, buy alcohol and tobacco, can drive and are considered young adults. Are you saying it's the fault of the parents that 64% didn't vote? What are they supposed to do? Frog march them down to the polling office?

Like many of your fellows, you are quite adept at twisting words and arguments. You aren't good at answering simple questions.

So are the youth of today a messed up twitter/facebook/snowflake generation or not? And if so, where were the parents of this supposed "messed up" generation and why are they refusing to take responsibility?

wotsthat

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

The advent of social media means they were extremely unlikely to not be aware that a referendum on the UK's membership of the EU was taking place.

They would have been bombarded by TV, print and social media about it. And they still failed to turn out.

No excuses I'm afraid.

Got it. Being lost in social media is a reason why young people didn't vote but it's also the reason why they had no excuses not to vote.

You're just down on young people the way Ruggedtoast is down on the boomers. Different sides of the same coin.

TrickyTree83

mwpt wrote: »

Like many of your fellows, you are quite adept at twisting words and arguments. You aren't good at answering simple questions.

So are the youth of today a messed up twitter/facebook/snowflake generation or not? And if so, where were the parents of this supposed "messed up" generation and why are they refusing to take responsibility?

You're asking me to answer why the parents are refusing to take responsibility.

I'm saying, the parents do not have responsibility for the choices their adult children make. I'm not twisting anything.

With regards to "So are the youth of today a messed up twitter/facebook/snowflake generation or not?", I would like to think they aren't. I would like to think they were all engaged in the choice that was put before them and that they cared deeply about it. But the evidence doesn't support that.

Intoodeep

warehouse wrote: »

Did they ever find the missing 65% of under 25's?

TrickyTree83

wotsthat wrote: »

Got it. Being lost in social media is a reason why young people didn't vote but it's also the reason why they had no excuses not to vote.

You're just down on young people the way Ruggedtoast is down on the boomers. Different sides of the same coin.

I'm 32, I'm not far out of that generation and I could see the bombardment on social media and traditional media on the topic of the EU referendum. If they saw it and did nothing, not the older generations fault. If they didn't see it then they are indeed disconnected from the real issues that affect their lives, not the older generations fault.

If they choose to discuss the latest eviction from Love Island rather than issues that affect their lives then of course they are indeed lost in social media at the same time as being bombarded by social media about these larger issues (depending on their application preferences). If they choose to ignore these issues, why is that? The information was most certainly out there if they wanted it.

So thanks for trying to paint me as a contradiction when in fact it's entirely possible and plausibe for both to be true.

Tromking

On the subject of growing anger, Berlin alleged to be not too happy with Juncker and his handling of the UK`s pre-referendum negotiations.
Important to remember that despite our homegrown recriminations, the UK`s imminent departure from the EU can be viewed as a mainland European failure too.

Thrugelmir

Tromking wrote: »

On the subject of growing anger, Berlin alleged to be not too happy with Juncker and his handling of the UK`s pre-referendum negotiations.

French are likewise making unhelpful comments post the referendum. The thin veneer of agreement soon gets peeled away. Juncker making comments about Scotland and Northern Ireland isn't helping unity either. Merely highlights other European historical disagreements that are still simmering after decades.

wotsthat

Tromking wrote: »

On the subject of growing anger, Berlin alleged to be not too happy with Juncker and his handling of the UK`s pre-referendum negotiations.
Important to remember that despite our homegrown recriminations, the UK`s imminent departure from the EU, can be viewed as a mainland European failure too.

I'm a little surprised Europe's craggy shores have only wrecked and damaged the careers of UK politicians so far. Juncker hardly covered himself in glory and seemed to take the thought of the UK leaving as a personal affront.

The irony is over the next few years UK politicians will have to engage with Europe like never before so there will likely be some more casualties to come. Europe will probably continue to be a handy scapegoat for the ineffective politician for years to come too.