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Anger grows at The Boomers EU vandalism
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ruggedtoast
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Comfortable, affluent, with unlimited healthcare, juicy state and private pensions, and unearned housing wealth that would please an African dictator. Who wouldn't want to be a babyboomer, the generation that rode the sweet spot of an ever growing economy with vast capital appreciation for decades?
In fact what could possibly be better for them? A country shorn of decades long links at the heart of Europe, wrenched from the international community, isolated and in many ways a laughing stock of the world, apparently.

Some boomers react to Brexit
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/jun/27/brexit-family-rifts-parents-referendum-conflict-betrayal

Young people now will only be able to tell their children about what it was like being part of the European family
Markets are crashing, billions have been wiped from company balance sheets and firms are scrambling to redeploy from the UK.
But for the young this further straitening of their economic situation is not the worst thing. They had got used to being burdened with £50k debts to go to university while the generations ahead of them went for free. They accepted unpaid internships and zero hours contracts and the fact that when they do eventually get to retire, the state pension will likely not exist. Gone the way of free TV licenses, bus passes and prescriptions that their taxes fund for already wealthy pensioners today.
The worst thing is the total removal of opportunity. Until a large section of the public marched to the ballot on Thursday and joyously smashed to pieces a way of life that has kept us prosperous and at peace for decades, things were different.

For most young people the idea of the EU was a powerful message of hope and aspiration, now replaced by ugly invective over immigrants - source Wiki - By Diliff - Own work, CC BY-SA 2.5, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=2067974
A kid could be born in Huddersfield and live and work anywhere in the EU. If they wanted to be a waiter in Rome, lovingly painting the Arch of Constantine on their days off, they could do so. If they wished to go to Berlin and work in a newspaper with their penniless Bavarian artist boyfriend that they could also do.
None of this affects the affluent, the wealthy, the already powerful. The Tory politicians and their children will continue to zip between London, New York and Bonn, vaguely aware that there are some kind of visas that need to be arranged by their personal assistants and HR departments.
Retirees also, will continue their summer pre-school holiday peregrinations around the South of France, Italy, Spain and Portugal. A cavalcade of air conditioned motor homes passing through borders, comfortable in the ignorant illusion that "nothing has changed." - save for the inconvenient weakness of the pound.

But for the young people who now find themselves trapped on a small island - with no automatic right to live work or settle anywhere else in the world. Everything has changed and they will never have the future back that they had last week.
The Boomers have often been named "The Selfish Generation". But this decision they have made will not be ignored or forgotten. They have fundamentally changed the lives of every age group below them, against their wishes.
Now they need to find some way of proving that they made the right decision.
And not just the right decision for themselves.
In fact what could possibly be better for them? A country shorn of decades long links at the heart of Europe, wrenched from the international community, isolated and in many ways a laughing stock of the world, apparently.

Some boomers react to Brexit
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/jun/27/brexit-family-rifts-parents-referendum-conflict-betrayal
Jamie, 28, grew up in a council flat with a single mother who worked hard to make their difficult life better for her children. “I’ve always been so proud of her for all the things she sacrificed for us. She’s warm, kind, generous and funny. She has such acute sympathy that she’s been known to cry hearing about the illness of other people’s relatives. Oh, and she also hates immigrants.”

Young people now will only be able to tell their children about what it was like being part of the European family
Markets are crashing, billions have been wiped from company balance sheets and firms are scrambling to redeploy from the UK.
But for the young this further straitening of their economic situation is not the worst thing. They had got used to being burdened with £50k debts to go to university while the generations ahead of them went for free. They accepted unpaid internships and zero hours contracts and the fact that when they do eventually get to retire, the state pension will likely not exist. Gone the way of free TV licenses, bus passes and prescriptions that their taxes fund for already wealthy pensioners today.
The worst thing is the total removal of opportunity. Until a large section of the public marched to the ballot on Thursday and joyously smashed to pieces a way of life that has kept us prosperous and at peace for decades, things were different.

For most young people the idea of the EU was a powerful message of hope and aspiration, now replaced by ugly invective over immigrants - source Wiki - By Diliff - Own work, CC BY-SA 2.5, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=2067974
A kid could be born in Huddersfield and live and work anywhere in the EU. If they wanted to be a waiter in Rome, lovingly painting the Arch of Constantine on their days off, they could do so. If they wished to go to Berlin and work in a newspaper with their penniless Bavarian artist boyfriend that they could also do.
None of this affects the affluent, the wealthy, the already powerful. The Tory politicians and their children will continue to zip between London, New York and Bonn, vaguely aware that there are some kind of visas that need to be arranged by their personal assistants and HR departments.
Retirees also, will continue their summer pre-school holiday peregrinations around the South of France, Italy, Spain and Portugal. A cavalcade of air conditioned motor homes passing through borders, comfortable in the ignorant illusion that "nothing has changed." - save for the inconvenient weakness of the pound.

But for the young people who now find themselves trapped on a small island - with no automatic right to live work or settle anywhere else in the world. Everything has changed and they will never have the future back that they had last week.
The Boomers have often been named "The Selfish Generation". But this decision they have made will not be ignored or forgotten. They have fundamentally changed the lives of every age group below them, against their wishes.
Now they need to find some way of proving that they made the right decision.
And not just the right decision for themselves.
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So why did only 35% of under 25s vote?
Yet you blame the older generation? Good one.Pants0 -
the young people who now find themselves trapped on a small island - with no automatic right to live work or settle anywhere else in the world.
So, like the boomers, then?0 -
At least their house prices will drop now.
I can see an increase in younger voters and an end to the political pandering the boomers enjoy.0 -
At least their house prices will drop now.
I can see an increase in younger voters and an end to the political pandering the boomers enjoy.
Why can you "see an increase in younger voters"? If they had actually got off their @rses to vote they might have got the result they wanted. This happened because they didn't vote.
Either they do not on the whole give a stuff, clearly not enough to vote, or - I'm afraid - this result rather validates the older generation's view of the younger. They really are vacuous airheads who feel entitled to everything without lifting a finger and who have no idea what's going on around them because they can't tear their eyes away from the !!!!!! and Kardashian garbage on their stupid little phones.
Which is it? Why did 2/3rds of them not bother to vote?0 -
ruggedtoast wrote: »Comfortable, affluent, with unlimited healthcare, juicy state and private pensions, and unearned housing wealth that would please an African dictator. Who wouldn't want to be a babyboomer, the generation that rode the sweet spot of an ever growing economy with vast capital appreciation for decades?
In fact what could possibly be better for them? A country shorn of decades long links at the heart of Europe, wrenched from the international community, isolated and in many ways a laughing stock of the world, apparently.
Some boomers react to Brexit
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/jun/27/brexit-family-rifts-parents-referendum-conflict-betrayal
Young people now will only be able to tell their children about what it was like being part of the European family
Markets are crashing, billions have been wiped from company balance sheets and firms are scrambling to redeploy from the UK.
But for the young this further straitening of their economic situation is not the worst thing. They had got used to being burdened with £50k debts to go to university while the generations ahead of them went for free. They accepted unpaid internships and zero hours contracts and the fact that when they do eventually get to retire, the state pension will likely not exist. Gone the way of free TV licenses, bus passes and prescriptions that their taxes fund for already wealthy pensioners today.
The worst thing is the total removal of opportunity. Until a large section of the public marched to the ballot on Thursday and joyously smashed to pieces a way of life that has kept us prosperous and at peace for decades, things were different.
For most young people the idea of the EU was a powerful message of hope and aspiration, now replaced by ugly invective over immigrants - source Wiki - By Diliff - Own work, CC BY-SA 2.5, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=2067974
A kid could be born in Huddersfield and live and work anywhere in the EU. If they wanted to be a waiter in Rome, lovingly painting the Arch of Constantine on their days off, they could do so. If they wished to go to Berlin and work in a newspaper with their penniless Bavarian artist boyfriend that they could also do.
None of this affects the affluent, the wealthy, the already powerful. The Tory politicians and their children will continue to zip between London, New York and Bonn, vaguely aware that there are some kind of visas that need to be arranged by their personal assistants and HR departments.
Retirees also, will continue their summer pre-school holiday peregrinations around the South of France, Italy, Spain and Portugal. A cavalcade of air conditioned motor homes passing through borders, comfortable in the ignorant illusion that "nothing has changed." - save for the inconvenient weakness of the pound.
But for the young people who now find themselves trapped on a small island - with no automatic right to live work or settle anywhere else in the world. Everything has changed and they will never have the future back that they had last week.
The Boomers have often been named "The Selfish Generation". But this decision they have made will not be ignored or forgotten. They have fundamentally changed the lives of every age group below them, against their wishes.
Now they need to find some way of proving that they made the right decision.
And not just the right decision for themselves.
more toxic toastie hate campaign against his parents / grandparents / aunts/ uncles and everyone that helped him when he was growing up.
We will probably never know why he so full of hatred but I'm sure some professional advice would help.
Come on toxic toastie : go see a doctor0 -
westernpromise wrote: »Why can you "see an increase in younger voters"? If they had actually got off their @rses to vote they might have got the result they wanted. This happened because they didn't vote.
Either they do not on the whole give a stuff, clearly not enough to vote, or - I'm afraid - this result rather validates the older generation's view of the younger. They really are vacuous airheads who feel entitled to everything without lifting a finger and who have no idea what's going on around them because they can't tear their eyes away from the !!!!!! and Kardashian garbage on their stupid little phones.
Which is it? Why did 2/3rds of them not bother to vote?
I think it would be better if you got down off the fence and told us what you really think
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:0 -
At least their house prices will drop now.
I can see an increase in younger voters and an end to the political pandering the boomers enjoy.
No good to us if the markets crash further, jobs start to be lost and banks stop lending
But hey at least we got our country back :T:(:(:(
First Date 08/11/2008, Moved In Together 01/06/2009, Engaged 01/01/10, Wedding Day 27/04/2013, Baby Moshie due 29/06/2019 :T0 -
westernpromise wrote: »Why can you "see an increase in younger voters"? If they had actually got off their @rses to vote they might have got the result they wanted. This happened because they didn't vote.
Either they do not on the whole give a stuff, clearly not enough to vote, or - I'm afraid - this result rather validates the older generation's view of the younger. They really are vacuous airheads who feel entitled to everything without lifting a finger and who have no idea what's going on around them because they can't tear their eyes away from the !!!!!! and Kardashian garbage on their stupid little phones.
Which is it? Why did 2/3rds of them not bother to vote?
Older voters have always turned out in higher numbers than younger ones. The older voters now also massively outnumber younger voters.
But you are rather missing the point, unsurprisingly. Older people have voted for a future for young people that the young people do not want, that is not in their interests, and the older people will not live to see. Largely, as far as I can see, due to an anger about immigration that isn't shared by many people outside of their own age group.0 -
At least their house prices will drop now.
I can see an increase in younger voters and an end to the political pandering the boomers enjoy.
I don't think they will in real terms. There is little new housebuilding planned because older voters don't want to see houses being built, and much of what there was is being cancelled in the light of Brexit uncertainty.
The Leave campaigners are now backtracking on any reduction in immigration, and the deportations that most Leave voters wanted, was never on the cards anyway.
I cant see much of a change in demand or supply.0 -
ruggedtoast wrote: »Older voters have always turned out in higher numbers than younger ones. The older voters now also massively outnumber younger voters.
But you are rather missing the point, unsurprisingly. Older people have voted for a future for young people that the young people do not want, that is not in their interests, and the older people will not live to see. Largely, as far as I can see, due to an anger about immigration that isn't shared by many people outside of their own age group.
many young people delegated the decision to the older people as they realise people with experience of life have much better judgement.
younger people grow old : most but not all, will learn a little wisdom and moderation.0
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