Will the losers accept the result and move on

stator

gfplux wrote: »

It will be interesting when the border between the North and the South becomes the new border between the EU and the U.K.

Ireland aren't part of the Schengen Area so I don't see a problem. The border will remain open between the two Irelands.

ukcarper

stator wrote: »

Ireland aren't part of the Schengen Area so I don't see a problem. The border will remain open between the two Irelands.

Couldn't any European citizen go to Ireland then travel to UK without showing passport.

CLAPTON

ukcarper wrote: »

Couldn't any European citizen go to Ireland then travel to UK without showing passport.

Well any in the world can go to Eire now and then cross to the UK without showing a passport.

ukcarper

CLAPTON wrote: »

Well any in the world can go to Eire now and then cross to the UK without showing a passport.

Not any where in the world

Linda_D_2

ruggedtoast wrote: »

This is the boomers. The fault of it boomers. The UKIP voting pension hogging boomers. :mad::mad:

Ha I knew you'd blame the boomers.

You have to love such a bad loser

CLAPTON

ukcarper wrote: »

Not any where in the world

as far as I know, tourists from anywhere in the world can visit Eire: do you know differently?

ukcarper

CLAPTON wrote: »

as far as I know, tourists from anywhere in the world can visit Eire: do you know differently?

Without a visa

Mistermeaner

Mistermeaner wrote: »

No Clapton, I think you raising jo cox when her murder had no relevance to the bit of banter in these last few posts is disgusting.

What relevance does it have. Can you explain yourself?

For a man that loves a question you're pretty poor at answering them.

cells

Conrad wrote: »

The revolution from the ground up is precisely what is needed to bring us together in a share new journey

So much bad feeling resulted from the fact the liberal rulling class became utterly detached from the lives of the working class.

The working class don't want more regulations to ensure a NMW wage is paid, they want a pay rise and this is impossible with limitless mass immigration. Whilst they suffer in silence the privileged lofty elites smugly read the Guardian and think Owen Jones has the answers

mass unskilled migration helps put the lower skilled uk born workers up a tier or two on the skill/wage spectrum.

Long term unemployment (those unemployed for 12 months or more) is only 1% in the UK. That means if the poles are washing the dishes, stacking the shelves, collecting the rubbish, then the uk workers are not unemployed but employed in something more than that.

of course if a UK born and bread citizen, in a country with just 1% unemployment decides that they can only do minimum wage jobs they dont benefit much but for everyone else which is probably in excess of 95% of the population they are better off for it

Also a young unskilled (or skilled) migrant coming and working in the UK (and remember unemployment is only 1% so virtually all of them are working) likely pays a good deal more in taxes for the next 40 years than they take out

cells

Conrad wrote: »

No he's part of that great deaf liberal elite monolith that has stifled the working class voice, endlessly lecturing them that mass immigration is brilliant and enriching, as they sit in their £1m London homes with not a financial care in the world

Labour must ditch its lemon hierarchy

I've long been fascinated how hierarchies tend to loose touch with their voters / people / staff / customers. Its a disease on society.
Been on about this for 25 years when I realised the companies I worked for were all out of touch with the ground floor - often graduates at the top that have no domain specific experience

There was only really one real negative in being in the EU and that was that England has per capita a lot less landmass so benefits less from the farm subsidies or to put it another way the ~£10B net contribution was the real net negative.

Net migration inwards of young workers is brilliant economically. In a country with 1% unemployment (unemployed for 12 months or more) the migrants arent taking jobs they are creating demand and employment