Will the losers accept the result and move on

spadoosh

nkomp18 wrote: »

So you don't blame the person who stabbed you with the knife, but you blame whoever didn't give a compelling argument against your stabbing.
That argument can give a person brain haemorrhage. If I ever needed any proof that Brexiters are devoid of any sort of common sense, this is it.

You validated the point i was making yet im the one devoid of common sense?

mayonnaise

CLAPTON wrote: »

There are unpleasant racists that exist in our society that come out from time to time. We see it associated with elections, terrorist attacks, football matches, events in Rotherham and other newsworthy events.

To suggest we should suspend democracy because of the actions of a few unpleasant people is quite revolting.
You should be ashamed of your mindless accusations against decent people who simply disagree with you about the EU.

I usually don't bother replying to your mindless drivel but will make an exception.
You have literally made thousands of posts spewing hate, division and fear, claiming how well we would be off if we just could 'send them home' (example below).
This is EXACTLY the same 'go home' message that is been acted on by these lowlifes shouting abuse at EU migrants, Muslims and black people all over the country at the moment.
YOU should be ashamed, these are YOUR bedfellows.

CLAPTON wrote: »

if 3 million people go home we will
-all be able to enjoy a higher standard of housing
-enjoy reduced our time travelling on the road each day
-enjoy better access to NHS, doctors, dentists, hospitals
-enjoy tax cuts as we won't need to spend huge sums of money widening motorways, increasing train lines, building houses, hospital, schools etc

the effect of the job distribution obviously depends who leaves and who stays

spadoosh

Joeskeppi wrote: »

I think they could have been, the truth was out there before voting day.

This is a great site, a charity devoted to the facts:
https://fullfact.org/europe/membership-fee-eu/

Plus people were doing their bit to educate:
https://www.facebook.com/neil.ingoe/posts/10154108358141068
https://www.facebook.com/nick.roesen/posts/10156979038385591

But, this country is utterly rammed with people who don't seek out knowledge. Today all my brexit friends have been copying and pasting the hoax email about facebook making everything they own public. No capacity to think for themselves. 5 seconds on google proves it's lies, just like the majority of the leave campaign as detailed above, but that's obviously too much effort - http://www.snopes.com/computer/facebook/privacy.asp

Just be thankful theyve moved on from brexit. Ive still got loads of liberals crying into the latest iphone and sharing political posts about winnie the pooh on my news feed. Actually looking forward to seeing plates of food again and tagged at gym status'.

nkomp18

CLAPTON wrote: »

oh dear
so you generalise the intelligence of one person to half the country.
I think that make you rather foolish but I don't generalise that to other 'remainers'.

The generalisation was incorrect, so for that I take responsibility. However, I've seen generalisations going the opposite direction and those are often left without accountability.

As for the actual argument, of the racial attacks, what is our final conclusion on that? It's the fault of those who wanted to be part of the EU because they didn't warn the others that they would happen?

You know, not everyone who voted Leave is responsible for those racial attacks. But everyone responsible for those attacks voted Leave.

CLAPTON

mayonnaise wrote: »

I usually don't bother replying to your mindless drivel but will make an exception.
You have literally made thousands of posts spewing hate, division and fear, claiming how well we would be off if we just could 'send them home' (example below).
This is EXACTLY the same 'go home' message that is been acted on by these lowlifes shouting abuse at EU migrants, Muslims and black people all over the country at the moment.
YOU should be ashamed, these are YOUR bedfellows.

No where have I every suggested sending any people home.

My post was in relation to a post of Cells predicting disaster and armageddon IF 3 million people were to LEAVE (nothing about being SENT).

There is not one post of mine that suggests sending anyone home , indeed I have posted the opposite. I challenge you to find one such post.

You are an untruth and malicious person with no integrity.

spadoosh

nkomp18 wrote: »

The generalisation was incorrect, so for that I take responsibility. However, I've seen generalisations going the opposite direction and those are often left without accountability.

As for the actual argument, of the racial attacks, what is our final conclusion on that? It's the fault of those who wanted to be part of the EU because they didn't warn the others that they would happen?

You know, not everyone who voted Leave is responsible for those racial attacks. But everyone responsible for those attacks voted Leave.

So wheres your stance? Either im a fool becuase i follow your beliefs that i should take a look at myself because of the actions of other people, or im a fool because i dont follow your beliefs that i should take a lok at myself because of the actions of other people?


Dude in 2 posts your are completely contradicting yourself?

Which is it? I should take a look at myself for the actions of others or you shouldnt be held accountable because you didnt do enough to convince others?


And there in lies the hypocrisy of remainers!

Seriously do you not see how being part of a rich boys club that excludes others based on their geographical location (normally denoted by race ie mongoloids and negroids) yet calling those who vote out of that club racist and xenophobic. Its hypocrisy at its finest. O but they protect our rights, well no they increase regulation to make it difficult for competition this suppresses innovation (and equality). And the purpose of this club is solely to benefit its members. Completely delusional.

CLAPTON

nkomp18 wrote: »

The generalisation was incorrect, so for that I take responsibility. However, I've seen generalisations going the opposite direction and those are often left without accountability.

As for the actual argument, of the racial attacks, what is our final conclusion on that? It's the fault of those who wanted to be part of the EU because they didn't warn the others that they would happen?

You know, not everyone who voted Leave is responsible for those racial attacks. But everyone responsible for those attacks voted Leave.

the people responsible for the attacks were the people who carried out the attacks.

the logic you suggested is vile and brainless: the fact that others use vile and brainless argument, seems a poor justification.

nkomp18

spadoosh wrote: »

Which is it? I should take a look at myself for the actions of others or you shouldnt be held accountable because you didnt do enough to convince others?

There's crimes committed from a sub-group of Leavers and everyone should stand tall against it and loudly voice their disagreement to that. Unless of course you somehow agree with that behaviour and deep down also support social cleansing and racism, in which case I can completely understand why you are obfuscating the thread rather than agreeing that what is happening is deeply regrettable and, as I said, not what Leave-camp had intended.

This point is clear and there's no maybes and if's about it. You won't be able to obfuscate that.

spadoosh

nkomp18 wrote: »

There's crimes committed from a sub-group of Leavers and everyone should stand tall against it and loudly voice their disagreement to that. Unless of course you somehow agree with that behaviour and deep down also support social cleansing and racism, in which case I can completely understand why you are obfuscating the thread rather than agreeing that what is happening is deeply regrettable and, as I said, not what Leave-camp had intended.

This point is clear and there's no maybes and if's about it. You won't be able to obfuscate that.

Youre a racist because you want to be part of a group that puts its caucasoid nations trading above mongoloid and negroid nations. Speak out about that you xenophobe!

kinger101

Joeskeppi wrote: »

I think they could have been, the truth was out there before voting day.

This is a great site, a charity devoted to the facts:
https://fullfact.org/europe/membership-fee-eu/

Plus people were doing their bit to educate:
https://www.facebook.com/neil.ingoe/posts/10154108358141068
https://www.facebook.com/nick.roesen/posts/10156979038385591

But, this country is utterly rammed with people who don't seek out knowledge. Today all my brexit friends have been copying and pasting the hoax email about facebook making everything they own public. No capacity to think for themselves. 5 seconds on google proves it's lies, just like the majority of the leave campaign as detailed above, but that's obviously too much effort - http://www.snopes.com/computer/facebook/privacy.asp

All I see from that top link is that the both sides were making claims that they knew were incorrect. A quick scan through some of the other EU topics on that site shows both parties seem to distort the facts. Arguably the leave campaign do it more, but as a general rule, I'd say it's best not to treat anything a politician tells you as the truth.

I don't think the public, politicians or the press or interested in the facts. They all want soundbites and hyperbole. Sometimes the truth is just too dull it would seem. For example, take the recent England game against Iceland. Everyone screaming it was the worst England performance they'd ever seen. Yes, it was bad, but they must have very short memories. England v Algeria in the 2010 World Cup was far worse.