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So, no, you don't know that there was any illegal activity taking place within the property.
No, I do not know that. He may be a totally innocent man.
Basicaslly, I do not want a drug dealer living in my apartment. But i do not know that this man IS a drug dealer.
I think we'll go along with what Happy MJ said and just let it go to a periodic tenancy, then we can give him two month's notice at any time if it turns out he is a dodgy character.(AKA HRH_MUngo)
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Imagine someone holding forth on biology whose only knowledge of the subject is the Book of British Birds, and you have a rough idea of what it feels like to read Richard Dawkins on theology: Terry Eagleton0 -
Drug dealers do maintain clean sheets to avoid detection.I do Contracts, all day every day.0
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seven-day-weekend wrote: »But if he is an innocent man we WOULD like to renew his contract, he has been a model tenant otherwise.
But if he's found guilty you're going to make him homeless at the same time - isn't that one of the ways that people spiral into a life of crime?0 -
What is the tenant's job? Did you get an employer reference? Police are not interested in low-level street dealers or junkies, and are unlikely to have been granted a search warrant without something to show the court."Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" - Confucius0
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If he'd been there, the door wouldn't have been shoved in and, at this point in time, you'd have no knowledge whatsoever that anything at all occurred at the address of your flat.
Aside from the innocent/guilty charge .... so far the tenant has only been guilty of going out and not leaving the door unlocked
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missbiggles1 wrote: »But if he's found guilty you're going to make him homeless at the same time - isn't that one of the ways that people spiral into a life of crime?
Maybe, but I do not want a drug dealer living in my apartment. I'm sure you wouldn't either.
If people don't want to face the consequences of breaking the law, then they shouldn't break the law, should they?
Anyway, he may well yet be an innocent man.(AKA HRH_MUngo)
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Imagine someone holding forth on biology whose only knowledge of the subject is the Book of British Birds, and you have a rough idea of what it feels like to read Richard Dawkins on theology: Terry Eagleton0 -
What is the tenant's job? Did you get an employer reference? Police are not interested in low-level street dealers or junkies, and are unlikely to have been granted a search warrant without something to show the court.
We had an Estate Agent to do all the necessary checks and references, which he passed. I'm not sure what his job is, but he does have one.
There is plenty of expensive stuff in the apartment, so I don't think he is a junkie.(AKA HRH_MUngo)
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PasturesNew wrote: »If he'd been there, the door wouldn't have been shoved in and, at this point in time, you'd have no knowledge whatsoever that anything at all occurred at the address of your flat.
Aside from the innocent/guilty charge .... so far the tenant has only been guilty of going out and not leaving the door unlocked
But I DO know....that's rather an unhelpful comment!(AKA HRH_MUngo)
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missbiggles1 wrote: »But if he's found guilty you're going to make him homeless at the same time - isn't that one of the ways that people spiral into a life of crime?
Quite possibly true.
But, on the other hand, if it comes to a choice as to whether to give something to an honest person or to a criminal - then who-ya-gonna-choose?
Personally - I go for the "choose the honest person" option - as I dont see why the dishonest or suspect person should get something whilst an honest person is deprived of it.
Recent incident being that the two removal men when I moved house turned out to be dishonest. Faced with a moral dilemma (as well as wanting my money back for the goods they stole when they did the packing for me) I just took the view "Well they stole my goods and they have got their jobs - BUT there will be honest people on the Dole Queue that could do with their jobs". Put like that = the answer was obvious and I duly reported the theft to their firm and asked for my compensation (ie to ensure I didnt lose out financially because of their thieving).
So - I've covered myself for not having a financial loss because of criminals AND ensured a complaint is in there registered against their names exposing them as thieves.
The way I looked at it is - "Why should thieves have a job - when honest people are there on the dole queue that would like their jobs?". So - to me - it boiled down to deciding that x number of people telling the boss of the firm that their employees are thieves might lead to them being sacked and honest people getting their jobs instead of them.
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seven-day-weekend wrote: »Maybe, but I do not want a convicted drug dealer living in my apartment. I'm sure you wouldn't either.
If people don't want to face the consequences of breaking the law, then they shouldn't break the law, should they?
Anyway, he may well yet be an innocent man.
If you're going to be a professional landlord, all you should worry about is whether you get your rent regularly and the flat is kept in good order.
If you want to take a moral viewpoint on it then it should be wider than "not in my house" and probably start with "Let him who is without sin...."0
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