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A Brexiters view

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  • Rinoa
    Rinoa Posts: 2,701 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »

    The fact is that before the Central Banks got involved, the pound was in freefall. After the first week or two has passed, how much money do you expect the ECB to want to spend on propping up the pound?

    Maybe they will need to support the Euro more than the pound.

    As our resident financial expert, any idea why the ftse only fell 3% whilst the German and France indices fell 7% and 8% respectively.

    It was a commonly held belief that we exported far more as a percentage to the EU than they exported to us. You'd have thought London would be hit harder than EU markets.
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  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    Rinoa wrote: »
    Maybe they will need to support the Euro more than the pound.

    As our resident financial expert, any idea why the ftse only fell 3% whilst the German and France indices fell 7% and 8% respectively.

    It was a commonly held belief that we exported far more as a percentage to the EU than they exported to us. You'd have thought London would be hit harder than EU markets.

    1. The FTSE isn't a referendum on the UK's economy, it's a weighted average of the value of shares
    2. I would imagine that a large part of the difference can be explained by the different sector weights of the markets. About a quarter of the FTSE is utilities, telecoms and oil & gas which are defensive stocks, sectors that are largely absent from the DAX and CAC40.

    If you want to feel vindicated on a single day's share price movement then that's your choice. It would be financially innumerate though.
  • Thrugelmir
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    edited 25 June 2016 at 11:11AM
    Generali wrote: »
    You should probably realise that the world is laughing at you.

    You are a laughing stock.

    The US may yet have Trump in the White House. :wall::wall::wall::wall::wall:

    Won't be so smug then.

    Given that 50% of US citizens don't even hold passports little need to comment further. ;)

    As for Oz what does it do with Asylum seekers.....

    "It places them in offshore-detention facilities on two Pacific Island nations, Nauru and Papua New Guinea (PNG), and processes their asylum claims while keeping them there."

    Out of sight out of mind springs to mind.
  • chucknorris
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    Generali wrote: »
    1. The FTSE isn't a referendum on the UK's economy, it's a weighted average of the value of shares
    2. I would imagine that a large part of the difference can be explained by the different sector weights of the markets. About a quarter of the FTSE is utilities, telecoms and oil & gas which are defensive stocks, sectors that are largely absent from the DAX and CAC40.

    If you want to feel vindicated on a single day's share price movement then that's your choice. It would be financially innumerate though.

    The FTSE 250 fell about the same as those European markets, so I was guessing that the more global nature of the ftse 100 saved it from deeper falls.
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  • economic
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    The FTSE 250 fell about the same as those European markets, so I was guessing that the more global nature of the ftse 100 saved it from deeper falls.
    agree

    global indices liek ftse100, dow etc have a lot mroe foreign interest as well and so are more regarded as "safe". capital flight to these indices.
  • Rinoa
    Rinoa Posts: 2,701 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    1. The FTSE isn't a referendum on the UK's economy, it's a weighted average of the value of shares
    2. I would imagine that a large part of the difference can be explained by the different sector weights of the markets. About a quarter of the FTSE is utilities, telecoms and oil & gas which are defensive stocks, sectors that are largely absent from the DAX and CAC40.

    If you want to feel vindicated on a single day's share price movement then that's your choice. It would be financially innumerate though.

    Thanks Gen.

    These utilities, telecoms, oil and gas. Were they not in the Ftse when the experts were forecasting a Ftse fall down to 5000?
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  • I know it wont solve the immigration issue immediately, but it puts into place the means our Government can at least regain control of our borders in the future - it gives us future choices we wont otherwise have
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    Rinoa wrote: »
    Thanks Gen.

    These utilities, telecoms, oil and gas. Were they not in the Ftse when the experts were forecasting a Ftse fall down to 5000?

    They were but I don't think anyone predicted it would happen in a day.

    Let's see where we are in a few months.
  • chucknorris
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    edited 25 June 2016 at 11:43AM
    Rinoa wrote: »
    Thanks Gen.

    These utilities, telecoms, oil and gas. Were they not in the Ftse when the experts were forecasting a Ftse fall down to 5000?

    I never saw such drastic forecasts, whereabouts were they? I pulled a figure out of the air of about £1m loss, as a personal worse case Brexit scenario. But I didn't really think that it would come to that, in a way it doesn't matter, because there wasn't much that I could have done about it anyway, it will be what ends up as.

    I'm far less concerned now, and I can see myself possibly getting out of this taking less than a £50k hit.
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  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    Generali wrote: »
    They were but I don't think anyone predicted it would happen in a day.

    Let's see where we are in a few months.

    whats your personal view of where the FTSE will be in say a year
    and where the GBP will be
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