Hijacked by Windows 10.

bod1467

A more accurate analogy would be ... the car goes in for a service and the garage "update" the controls by swapping the clutch and accelerator pedals around. The car still functions as a car but it would take a long time to get used to the new controls setup.

ARandomMiser

In another couple of months the same people will be complaining that they have to pay for windows 10. The ones I feel sorry for are the technically illiterate that have allowed themselves to be convinced that upgrading is not good. I appreciate that in a small percentage of cases upgrading to W10 may not be the right decision but for the overwhelming majority it is ............ so get it while its free.

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takman wrote: »

If you take your car in for a service and they updated the software to a better version would you complain that they did it without your permission?

Actually I would.

If a garage is going to carry out extra work on my car, I expect them to agree it with me first.

You don't seem to have any actual problems with it other than it being different!

Did you miss the bit, where is screwed up the display?

takman

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

Actually I would.

If a garage is going to carry out extra work on my car, I expect them to agree it with me first.

Checking and updating the software on a car is actually part of the service from main dealers, so you actually agree to it when you ask for a service. Just like you agree to update to windows 10 when you agree to automatic updates.

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

Did you miss the bit, where is screwed up the display?

I saw the bit where you had old drivers on your computer that needed to be updated. Updating drivers should be done regularly, I'm willing to bet you haven't updated them for quite a while.

takman

bod1467 wrote: »

A more accurate analogy would be ... the car goes in for a service and the garage "update" the controls by swapping the clutch and accelerator pedals around. The car still functions as a car but it would take a long time to get used to the new controls setup.

Windows 10 isn't that different and doesn't take long to get used to the difference. A lot of people seem to think that windows 10 is just visually different, when in reality it has a lot of new features and performance updates to make it faster and more efficient.

Going back to your car analogy if I took my car for a service and the clutch and accelerator were swapped around I would be hesitant at first. But when it was explained to me that all new cars are gong to be like this and that they aim to change most existing cars to this because it makes them more fuel efficient and more powerful then I would be booking my other car in to get it updated too!

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takman wrote: »

Just like you agree to update to windows 10 when you agree to automatic updates.

Except, I've said no to Windows 10, countless times.

If I told my garage not install new stuff on my car, and they did it anyway, I'd be :mad:

I'm willing to bet you haven't updated them for quite a while.

Actually, I check for updates quite regularly.

Besides, shouldn't MS's wonderful compatibility checker have confirmed that there wouldn't be any conflicts, before installing Windows 10?

The video driver worked fine, on 8.1.

takman

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

Except, I've said no to Windows 10, countless times.

If I told my garage not install new stuff on my car, and they did it anyway, I'd be :mad:



Actually, I check for updates quite regularly.

Besides, shouldn't MS's wonderful compatibility checker have confirmed that there wouldn't be any conflicts, before installing Windows 10?

The video driver worked fine, on 8.1.

It would have checked that all devices were compatible, your graphics card was compatible it just had an out of date driver. There wasn't actually a conflict or any problem, updating drivers is a normal part of keeping a computer up to date. When was the last time you updated your graphics card driver because it must have been very out of date to work with windows 8 and not windows 10.

dekaspace

As someone with a history in tech support (did start a degree in it but left due to personal reasons) the general consumer doesn't seem much affected by OS upgrades as they don't notice the little things, some may notice a speed increase, some won't notice a speed decrease.

All my family members who used 7 and were forced to upgrade each one had crashes if it even worked at all or being accused of fake software.

The family members reporting this were the ones with low end pcs from about 4-7 years ago, other issues were driver related.

So basically if you have a recent pc or a laptop which uses generic parts then far less chance of a problem.

Then theres the arguments of spying or collecting data if you put it another way, reports of genuine software being disabled as its seen as pirated, and back to the less mainstream uses people who use pcs for work related stuff such as tech support their software won't yet if at all work on the new OS.

Theres still issues with 8.1 despite that being a few years old now.

So in reality you can't tell, you may have no problems, you may not notice problems but they are there, you may have a lot of problems.

Sam_Fallow

Seems to a common theme that there is a right and a wrong here. I am not resistant to change, I have used every operating system from Microsoft, many variants of Linux and even Haiku OS (look that one up).

I use W10 on my wife's tablet (360 convertible) and it works well there and I quite like it.

I had it on my full size laptop and I didn't like it even after I configured more things than I would have liked to, to get it working properly. After 2 or 3 weeks I reverted back to W7.

While there seems to be trend of using analogies to make a point, I'll throw mine in...

When some say 'you should get it while it's free' it's like Starbucks offering a free coffee to get me through their doors. It won't attract me if I don't like the brand and don't like the coffee.

As for others who have upgraded to W10 only to make it look and feel like W7 or W8.1, why bother?

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Sam_Fallow wrote: »

As for others who have upgraded to W10 only to make it look and feel like W7 or W8.1, why bother?

Maybe because you like the look and feel of the previous OS.

Or, maybe, like me, you have an earlier OS on your work PC, and prefer to have your home PC resemble your work PC.