Here is the latest Microsoft's sleight of hand

esuhl

paddyrg wrote: »

There are really very few compelling reasons not to upgrade BTW

I've yet to see ONE compelling reason to upgrade. :rotfl:

dipsomaniac wrote: »

i bet you still use a scythe? i really don't get why you are wasting so much time resisting a free upgrade

I bet you're one of those people who buys a dishwasher especially because you can control it remotely with an app just because you think "new" means "better"!!!

I really don't understand why you are wasting so much time begging people to use software that you have absolutely no involvement in. Truly bizarre.

GunJack

...and W10 has developed it's own "W7 Updates don't work" problem, but it's far more serious than the W7 one.....

...it borks your internet connection (especially wifi) with the notification of "One or more protocols is missing" error message, and with no single fix :rotfl:

I thought W10 networking issues were confined to older hardware only, but just recently I have become aware of this on new machines and it's proving to be a s0d, so there's another reason NOT to install W10

MarkFromCornwall

dipsomaniac wrote: »

i bet you still use a scythe?

Scythes have a lot going for them. They are quieter and more environmentally friendly than mowers and they cost less. If Microsoft were in the scythe business then they would be telling us that we need to upgrade our scythes weekly for security reasons. The scythes would be blunt but we would accept that this was a feature not a bug.

CheifGrassCutter: stick to your guns. I gave in and accepted the Win10 downgrade. Sorting out the problems took a few hours and it's no better than its predecessor. Programs still crash several times a week, and now even the operating system gives me adverts.

Johnmcl7

dipsomaniac wrote: »

i bet you still use a scythe? i really don't get why you are wasting so much time resisting a free upgrade

It's a flawed analogy - Windows 8.1 has all the benefits of Windows 10 but keeps both a proper desktop and touch interface (the touch side of Windows 10 is useless) and there's no enforced control on privacy, windows updates and whatever else Microsoft fancy trying to use to make money on. It's been a good bit of marketing work to convince people Windows 10 is a massive improvement on 8 when it's pretty much the same operating system but with a bit more MS control.

The fact that Microsoft are being so heavy handed in trying to force it on people is a pretty good indicator it's not for our benefit.

John

esuhl

MarkFromCornwall wrote: »

If Microsoft were in the scythe business then they would be telling us that we need to upgrade our scythes weekly for security reasons. The scythes would be blunt but we would accept that this was a feature not a bug.

To repeat the famous quote, "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners."

giraffe69

Of course those who cannot stand the idea of Windows 10 and wish to resist with all their fibre and being can look forward to it being chargeable and Microsoft changing their approach.

Alternatively a switch to Linux and its many flavours or Apple or a nice new Chromebook would also solve the problem. Whilst there may be a few hanging on for lack of drivers for specialist equipment many are just resisting for the same reason Ned Ludd did and because they can.

I favour an upgrade which offers you the chance to accept or wipe the hard drive. Now that would give people something to whine about big time. Whilst they are deciding they can look at the nice coloured thing in Google Chrome that shows the version needs updating and prepare an email lambasting the company for daring to fix bugs rather than sticking with the current version.
My latest car came without a starting handle and I strongly suspect someone is monitoring every journey I make or at least they were until I removed the satnav and took it to the dump.The wheels are next!

paddyrg

esuhl wrote: »

I've yet to see ONE compelling reason to upgrade. :rotfl:

Win 8.1. I rest my case.

Or I could rest my case, but won't. Unlike the tales of skies falling in for some marginal use cases, for most people it's a pretty decent OS with a perfectly usable UI, for free, with long term support built-in to the model.

Someone seems to challenge driver availablity for some specific hardware, and that's a good reason to not upgrade (if none of the compatibility modes work, anyway). That said, that's down to the equipment manufacturers not writing drivers for the current OS, so it's similar to blaming Apple or BSD or whatever for a manufacturer not writing drivers.

Sam_Fallow

I upgraded to W10. It took a few days to get everything working on my bog standard Samsung laptop (thing like the Samsung control centre didn't work which meant the hot keys didn't work). However I got around this and used it a lot for 2-3 weeks.

I didn't like it.

I didn't like the updates protocol.

I didn't like what it did with my information.

I rolled back to W7 which I think is just fine for me. In fact W7 suits me so well I stopped using Ubuntu!

Plus, I can't help thinking that every one using a free software/comms facility reminds me of the film Kingsmen.
Free calls, free internet, free downloads. Free will?

I_have_spoken

Install Linux Mint and enjoy Freedom!

Jivesinger

Surely this will make things much easier for anyone trying to clean-install Windows 7, eg. if they've decided they don't like Windows 10.

We’re happy to announce today that we’re making available a new convenience rollup for Windows 7 SP1 that will help. This convenience rollup package, available to download from http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/Search.aspx?q=3125574, contains all the security and non-security fixes released since the release of Windows 7 SP1 that are suitable for general distribution, up through April 2016. Install this one update, and then you only need new updates released after April 2016.