BREXIT - Why?

bigfreddiel

What sane person offers everyone a vote on doiing something, only to violently disagree! In my mind anyone doing this must be totally insane, or have extremely bad judgement liable to u-turn at the drop of a hat.

Taking that into account the only answer is most definitely to vote OUT.

Just by having an in or out referendum, based on nothing concrete means you must vote OUT so we can control our own destiny. Voting in means we lose total respect throughout the world.

Also don't forget the IMF that is poking their nose in are the very same people that missed the crash in 2008! If they were an IFA, with that track record would you use them and take their advice?

fj

mollycat

Who said informed, incisive, political debate was dead!

colsten

I am totally bowled over by this convincing (:rotfl:) case put by.....someone on some internet forum who hasn't posted much that convinced anyone before on that internet forum

jimjames

bigfreddiel wrote: »

Just by having an in or out referendum, based on nothing concrete means you must vote OUT so we can control our own destiny. Voting in means we lose total respect throughout the world.
fj

How exactly do we control our own destiny in an interconnected world when national borders and governments are often unable to do what they want?
Brexiters seem to think that we can negotiate new trade deals the same as the ones we have now, immediately with no interruption and that there will be zero impact on our economy. Yet part of that deal is only taking the bits we like and refusing the bits we don't - what happens if the other side decide they don't much like the bits we want and refuse to play ball. We can't have it all our own way.

BananaRepublic

TTIP looks to be a boon for American corporations. And we will have to accept it.

Without doubt the EU is great for multinational corporations, who want to trade with as few regulations as possible. The EU is an anti-democratic organisation, with little scrutiny, and senior staff appointed on a buggins turn principle. And if you look at payments, the UK is one of the biggest payers in, and those who get large payments out are mostly Eastern Europeans and Greece. No wonder they wanted to join, and no wonder most want us to stay.

However, if we leave, Europe will tear apart, nuclear war will ensue, volcanoes will rise, and the UK economy will be destroyed.

Pincher

Europe is rendered impotent by all these countries squabbling with each other. We should leave and join China, where the central command structure has decisively created an economy that might overtake USA eventually.


Alternatively, follow me, and I shall create the Second British Empire. We will support Donald Trump getting elected, who will then proceed to asset strip the country. When America is on its knees, we will get China to dump US Treasury Bills. Using votes from Commonwealth countries, plus support from China, we pass a motion in the United Nations to impose compulsory bankruptcy terms. We now split the spoils with China. Russia is weakened by years of sanctions, Europe is mired in indecision, it could work.


Corporate raiding, on an international level, that's warfare 21st Century style.

teamgb

I find the Brexit campaign to be very unprofessional and wonder if with some of the stupid remarks he is making that Boris is a plant by the In campaign.

Thrugelmir

BananaRepublic wrote: »

TTIP looks to be a boon for American corporations. And we will have to accept it.

The French ( thank goodness) for one see through it. So won't be going anywhere fast.

economic

bigfreddiel wrote: »

What sane person offers everyone a vote on doiing something, only to violently disagree! In my mind anyone doing this must be totally insane, or have extremely bad judgement liable to u-turn at the drop of a hat.

Taking that into account the only answer is most definitely to vote OUT.

Just by having an in or out referendum, based on nothing concrete means you must vote OUT so we can control our own destiny. Voting in means we lose total respect throughout the world.

Also don't forget the IMF that is poking their nose in are the very same people that missed the crash in 2008! If they were an IFA, with that track record would you use them and take their advice?

fj

The IMF is not exactly going to be shouting there is a crash coming. I think they know more then they publish just to stop people panicking.

maxie014

Im voting out,bollix to the sane,rational,informed ,logical,this will happen,that will happen bull****
How did anyone ever make a decision if all that had to be taken into account!

msallen

Yet another example of how it is the inane rantings of the leave campaigners (rather than a convincing positive message from the remain ones) that has convinced me to vote to stay in.

If they had any good arguments we would be hearing them instead of all the drivel / lies.