Pet hate - being asked for a title

Person_one

Pollycat wrote: »

Starting work 46 years ago in a job that paid men and women on the same grade the same money and gave women the same opportunities for career advancement that men had, I've clearly not got the same attitude to sexual discrimination that some women in different circumstances have.

Ah I see, sexism and gender equality hasn't affected you in any way you've especially noticed, so you don't mind it continuing to happen and affecting other women. Ok.

Pollycat

Person_one wrote: »

Ah I see, sexism and gender equality hasn't affected you in any way you've especially noticed, so you don't mind it continuing to happen and affecting other women. Ok.

Not at all.

I just don't see it an an issue to get annoyed about.
Come back to me with some sexual discrimination that is really important and I'll get all fired up about the injustice.

gettingtheresometime

So if companies didn't use Mrs / Miss / Ms......how would women like to be addressed in a conversation? By their Christian name?

Person_one

gettingtheresometime wrote: »

So if companies didn't use Mrs / Miss / Ms......how would women like to be addressed in a conversation? By their Christian name?

Women don't have a shared opinion on this matter, we haven't voted yet. What do all men think about it?

I personally don't mind firstname lastname (I don't have a 'Christian' name but that's a slightly different debate!) Others like a title but prefer to be asked which, others prefer that Ms be the default.

Person_one

Pollycat wrote: »

Not at all.

I just don't see it an an issue to get annoyed about.
Come back to me with some sexual discrimination that is really important and I'll get all fired up about the injustice.

You don't think the insidious little bits of discrimination add up and help to prolong the more overt more serious manifestations? You don't think that a prevailing attitude that marital status is defining for women but not men has an impact on wider attitudes towards women and gender?

Pollycat

Person_one wrote: »

You don't think the insidious little bits of discrimination add up and help to prolong the more overt more serious manifestations? You don't think that a prevailing attitude that marital status is defining for women but not men has an impact on wider attitudes towards women and gender?

No.
And no.

barbarawright

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

Actually it's superfluous to be concerned with someone's gender. What does it matter? Hence why I dont understand why anyone would want to know whether I am Mr/Mrs/Miss/Ms or something else anyway. I'm a person....end of...

Exactly. Unless I'm seeing a gynaecologist, why is my gender ever relevant?. It's not like, for example, a cinema is suddenly going to ibuild more ladies loos if more women book for a particular performance.

catkins

I don't mind being asked and am happy if they just assume I am married and call me Mrs because I am. I hate being called Ms though. It just sounds silly to me

burlington6

Person_one wrote: »

Women don't have a shared opinion on this matter, we haven't voted yet. What do all men think about it?

I personally don't mind firstname lastname (I don't have a 'Christian' name but that's a slightly different debate!) Others like a title but prefer to be asked which, others prefer that Ms be the default.

If you want true equality on this particular subject, you'll have to realise nobody would care how it would make men feel or how it would effect them.

That's the way it should be......so in the name of equality, I don't care how it makes you feel.

Mojisola

gettingtheresometime wrote: »

Well unless I've missed something there isn't a title for a single man!

And for any male under 18 they get cards addressed to master (just in case anyone was wondering!)

Person_one wrote: »

I think its 'Mr'.

The title for a married man is also 'Mr'.

If you want to address a divorced or widowed man you should use 'Mr'.

Its almost as if marital status isn't important...

If Master and Miss were used for children and Mr and Mrs used for adults, I wouldn't mind being called Mrs. I think that's how Mrs used to be used.

I can imagine the reaction from middle-aged single men if they were still referred to as Master because they weren't married.