Adult sharing inappropriate content

mumps

I think alot of them have their parents old phone. Parent upgrades and the child has the old one, I don't think it does make them much of a target now as so many have them and the older models aren't actually worth much. My DIL is trying to decide if she is giving her old iphone 4 to my grandson or get him an ipad.

GS will have a very limited contract with no or little internet, at school they will use the wifi in lessons which is supervised. I know someone logged on to something inappropriate at one of the schools and was out the door pretty quick.

Guest101

mumps wrote: »

I think alot of them have their parents old phone. Parent upgrades and the child has the old one, I don't think it does make them much of a target now as so many have them and the older models aren't actually worth much. My DIL is trying to decide if she is giving her old iphone 4 to my grandson or get him an ipad.

GS will have a very limited contract with no or little internet, at school they will use the wifi in lessons which is supervised. I know someone logged on to something inappropriate at one of the schools and was out the door pretty quick.

Supervised?? Well that's even more worrying.


Content should not be accessible full stop via the school network.

mumps

Guest101 wrote: »

Supervised?? Well that's even more worrying.


Content should not be accessible full stop via the school network.

That's what I mean, they have controls and anything untoward is flagged somehow, I don't know the exact system but if they use wifi for not school stuff then they will be caught out even if it isn't inappropriate but obviously much more serious if it is. The point I was making was they can't just log onto via the wifi system and willynilly do what they want so if like my GS they don't have an internet package, or very small amount, then they aren't going to be getting into anything they shouldn't.

I don't know how reliable the control systems are as I am an adult and don't use them but I think it is good that it is monitored incase anything gets past the controls.

Jojo_the_Tightfisted

mumps wrote: »

That's what I mean, they have controls and anything untoward is flagged somehow, I don't know the exact system but if they use wifi for not school stuff then they will be caught out even if it isn't inappropriate but obviously much more serious if it is. The point I was making was they can't just log onto via the wifi system and willynilly do what they want so if like my GS they don't have an internet package, or very small amount, then they aren't going to be getting into anything they shouldn't.

I don't know how reliable the control systems are as I am an adult and don't use them but I think it is good that it is monitored incase anything gets past the controls.

If it's anything like the system at work which is used by hundreds of schools, it's so effective, it blocks access to resources we would actually benefit from using. And anything accessed through the wifi on any device can be monitored at any moment by the guys in IT (which is why I use my mobile data at all times in school - I don't want anybody able to see my personal emails, as they are personal) - they can add things to the blocking system as they go, too. In class, there is a software package that allows staff to see exactly what is on any screen at any time, switch off the internet altogether or restrict access to just one site at a time.

peachyprice

Jojo_the_Tightfisted wrote: »

If it's anything like the system at work which is used by hundreds of schools, it's so effective, it blocks access to resources we would actually benefit from using. And anything accessed through the wifi on any device can be monitored at any moment by the guys in IT (which is why I use my mobile data at all times in school - I don't want anybody able to see my personal emails, as they are personal) - they can add things to the blocking system as they go, too. In class, there is a software package that allows staff to see exactly what is on any screen at any time, switch off the internet altogether or restrict access to just one site at a time.

I guess that's why it's easier in some subjects for the teacher to just tell them to get their phones out and google. I know my daughter touches on subjects in her Philosophy & Ethics lessons that would not get past the school filter.

peachyprice

Guest101 wrote: »

Surely an Ipod touch (which is cheaper) would be better?

So they carry an ipod and a phone? How is that better?

As for making children targets, no, having an iphone doesn't because they all have an iphone/android equivalent. The children that run the highest risk of being 'targetted' are those whose parents will only let them have a basic calls only phone.

HappyMJ

mumps wrote: »

That's what I mean, they have controls and anything untoward is flagged somehow, I don't know the exact system but if they use wifi for not school stuff then they will be caught out even if it isn't inappropriate but obviously much more serious if it is. The point I was making was they can't just log onto via the wifi system and willynilly do what they want so if like my GS they don't have an internet package, or very small amount, then they aren't going to be getting into anything they shouldn't.

I don't know how reliable the control systems are as I am an adult and don't use them but I think it is good that it is monitored incase anything gets past the controls.

I work in IT and we use software that will filter results and redirect the page accessed to a block page....but there are so many ways around it that it's relatively pointless.

All a student has to do is access the settings on the tablet and turn off access to the free wi-fi we provide and access the 4G data connection they have on their phone as a tethered connection and they get very high speed access to a completely unfiltered internet.

They are quite intelligent and know how to bypass the filters.

onomatopoeia99

Jojo_the_Tightfisted wrote: »

If it's anything like the system at work which is used by hundreds of schools, it's so effective, it blocks access to resources we would actually benefit from using. And anything accessed through the wifi on any device can be monitored at any moment by the guys in IT (which is why I use my mobile data at all times in school - I don't want anybody able to see my personal emails, as they are personal) - they can add things to the blocking system as they go, too. In class, there is a software package that allows staff to see exactly what is on any screen at any time, switch off the internet altogether or restrict access to just one site at a time.

If you are connecting to a secure (https) website on your own device over the school wifi, the IT guys will not be able to monitor anything more than the URL you are accessing. That is the nature of connection security, the data is encrypted on your device using the public key for the site you are accessing and can only be decrypted using the private key that the site has - if they attempt a man in the middle type attack on your connection to a secure site the browser should warn you that the certificate is a forgery.

The IT department collecting the data being exchanged is therefore of no use to them as they will not be able to decrypt it. The same is not true of devices owned by the organisation whose wifi you are using, the IT can compromise the security on them so such interception is possible with no warning. A lesson on on how they do this is not appropriate there though.

mumps

HappyMJ wrote: »

I work in IT and we use software that will filter results and redirect the page accessed to a block page....but there are so many ways around it that it's relatively pointless.

All a student has to do is access the settings on the tablet and turn off access to the free wi-fi we provide and access the 4G data connection they have on their phone as a tethered connection and they get very high speed access to a completely unfiltered internet.

They are quite intelligent and know how to bypass the filters.

Well if GS has no, or very limited, 4g on his mobile package he should be OK I think he will have a £5 giffgaff goody bag, we are all on giffgaff so it means he will always have access to family even if he has used all his minutes. I think you only get 100 MB with it so he won't be able to spend all day on the internet. He likes downloading music so it will probably all go on that.

Anglea

It must have been a very unwelcome shock to see all that on your son's account.

Contacting the authorities isn't a route I would have taken lightly as there are so many potential consequences. Even though your children are ok about it, but would they be if it gets known on social media their dad is being talked to by the police?

If this had happened to me, I would have met up with the ex to hear his side of the story and also explain how the behaviour is affecting the 12 year old son. And also try and find out if the stepmother also knew about the messages.

Either your ex is just not thinking clearly and likes the attention or there is something else going on in the background. If it hadn't been you finding the messages someone else could have done as there were a number of different people receiving them.