Best Way To Object A Planning Application? Hes At It AGAIN!! UPDATED 19/06

divadee

Gwhiz wrote: »

Divadee - is there much more to this story than you are letting on? There seems to be much anger in your feelings towards your neighbour when all he wanted to do was develop some land for a profit. He went through the proper channels to do so which gave you the right to provide your feedback for why you believed the development should be refused.

I'm just curious as I have seen neighbours in the past get incredibly aggressive as soon as a development notice gets posted (once I was the neighbour trying to obtain planning to have a velux put in my bathroom and had to fight like crazy with one particular neighbour who felt it was his duty to maintain the road I lived in in it's 1930's original condition). Sometimes there are deep rooted reasons for this behavious that have little to do with rational thought or the development itself.

As I said, just curious!

well if you call pestering us for the 2 years pervious to the applications once a week to ask to buy our garden, parking 3 heavy machinary vehicles in his garden and 3 more on the street, abusing me in the street for having the audacity to object to his plans then yes we must be very unreasonable neighbours.

you have not seen the plans for this development when plenty on here have, and if i am soooo in the wrong why has it been turned down twice by the local council and once by plannning appeal inspectorate.

it is to big a development for the plot, he wants his new house to have a density of 49 dwellings per hectare when the local average for this area is 19!! what he is suggesting is on a par with building a block of flats, not a family home.

also if you think its unreasonable for me to say a family home needs more than a 2m length and 10m wide garden that of course you must think i am being unreasonable.

i must also be unreasonable that i dont want to be overlooked in my garden by this new development, neighbours do have a right to privacy.

i do not have anger issues lol, and i am not a nimby in fact i stated yesterday that i wouldnt have any objections to a single storey building going in, as long as permitted development rights be taken away.

harryhound

divadee wrote: »

section 106 is the heathland mitigation fee, baically a bung so the council can provide 'open spaces' if you build within 500m of a protected site.

at the moment the fee is £1500 per new dwelling, but of course your mortgage co has to release the land for you to build on, and i think he is having trouble getting this.

What will they think of next?
Theoretically a tax for maintaining the common heathland.
I wonder if it is ring fenced against vanishing into the common pool of taxation?
Concerned tax payers should ask the district auditor.
"Hypothecation" all round?
Has Mr greedy mentioned to the mortgagee that he wants to sell a chunk of its security?.

Harry

PS I got a speculative letter from an (underemployed?) surveyor pointing out that I would be entitled to a "party wall" agreement because a lovely neighbour is proposing a modest single story extension nearer than 3 meters to a part of a building I own. (it will be about 10 ft away from a bland flank wall).

Presumably the proposed development does not come within 3 meters of your property?

divadee

harryhound wrote: »

What will they think of next?
Theoretically a tax for maintaining the common heathland.
I wonder if it is ring fenced against vanishing into the common pool of taxation?
Concerned tax payers should ask the district auditor.
"Hypothecation" all round?
Has Mr greedy mentioned to the mortgagee that he wants to sell a chunk of its security?.

Harry

PS I got a speculative letter from an (underemployed?) surveyor pointing out that I would be entitled to a "party wall" agreement because a lovely neighbour is proposing a modest single story extension nearer than 3 meters to a part of a building I own. (it will be about 10 ft away from a bland flank wall).

Presumably the proposed development does not come within 3 meters of your property?

i know it is laughable in a way!! it only counts to new builds though not an extension etc... and it has to be a totally new dwelling not a rebuild of an existing one. i dont know if it is ring fenced though, i think it would have to be, bt then councils are a law unto themselves lol

but if they dont pay it it is grounds to refuse planning permission on its own.

nope not within 3m of my property. but they still will need a party wall agreement when they come to build (if he gets it of course) as it is less than 3m to my boundary fence.

harryhound

You will be able to set yourself up in a new career when this is over: "Planning Consultant".
No win no fee?

Gwhiz

divadee wrote: »

well if you call pestering us for the 2 years pervious to the applications once a week to ask to buy our garden, parking 3 heavy machinary vehicles in his garden and 3 more on the street, abusing me in the street for having the audacity to object to his plans then yes we must be very unreasonable neighbours.

you have not seen the plans for this development when plenty on here have, and if i am soooo in the wrong why has it been turned down twice by the local council and once by plannning appeal inspectorate.

it is to big a development for the plot, he wants his new house to have a density of 49 dwellings per hectare when the local average for this area is 19!! what he is suggesting is on a par with building a block of flats, not a family home.

also if you think its unreasonable for me to say a family home needs more than a 2m length and 10m wide garden that of course you must think i am being unreasonable.

i must also be unreasonable that i dont want to be overlooked in my garden by this new development, neighbours do have a right to privacy.

i do not have anger issues lol, and i am not a nimby in fact i stated yesterday that i wouldnt have any objections to a single storey building going in, as long as permitted development rights be taken away.

Got ya! You sound reasonable based on that

divadee

well a lot quicker than expected we have a decision.

the appeal was dismissed so we won yyiippeeeeeeeeee :j:j:j

still bound to put in another application, but we have won this battle if not the whole war yet lol.

my only concern is in the appeal decision the inspector may have given him enough info to get it passed next time.

Glittergirl

One thing you could do is speak to your local Councillor about your concerns. Do you know if the application is delegated or if it will go to the planning committee? Your Councillor is there to help you - use them!

dell12

Any more news on this? I'm in a very similar position....

stevedoc2003

Likewise, would be interested to hear an update. A planning application has been submitted for an infill next to my in-laws. Basically I have to draft the objection for them within the next 2 weeks. The information here is extremely helpful. I have downloaded the LDP for the area (Barnet) but I would be very grateful if anyone has any sense of what the most successful grounds for objection have tended to be. The Barnet document says there should be "sensitivity given to the impact of the bulk of a building on neighbours". Are they serious? If a house is being built 10-15 ft away then this seems a no brainer? Any help or tips much appreciated!

harryhound

In posh areas like Barnet there is a lot of pressure for infill, rear extensions, rooms in the roof etc.

Have a good read up of the planning guidance - central government set the general rules BUT the local authority is allowed to gold plate these locally.

For example in one rich suburban bit of London that I know, there is a very keen insistence on the 45 degree rule. ie if the neighbour, looking out over their garden can see your proposed monstrosity within an arc of 90 degrees of directly ahead, then they say no.