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NSL Tower Hamlets Homes PCN

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  • pappa_golf
    pappa_golf Posts: 8,895 Forumite
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    yup it was the "new" popla , still learning


    however even if it fails NSL would have to start a CC claim (based on £100)


    they are so tied up will council work , they will !!!! it up


    a lot depends if they send the NTK out correctly
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  • ja7ckal
    ja7ckal Posts: 20 Forumite
    This was why I posted, I couldn't find a similar enough 'roadmap' example, and this case not being successful does worry me.

    Can I clarify - Should I be waiting 24 days to then appeal online, or until the NTK arrives?
  • Redx
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    24 days and appeal, then hope they get so preoccupied that no NTK arrives, or it arrives after day 56 , so that they fail the POFA2012 law

    that is why you wait until day 24

    it does tell you this in the sticky thread
  • Redx
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    ja7ckal wrote: »
    This was why I posted, I couldn't find a similar enough 'roadmap' example, and this case not being successful does worry me.

    that case was one of remaining on site so popla said they should have read the signs , complied and left (ie:- left within the grace period)

    your ticket shows an observed time of less than one minute, nowhere near the grace time allowed, even a council ticket allows for 10 minutes and that changed last year I believe

    one minute doesnt comply with any statute or rule or CoP
  • ja7ckal
    ja7ckal Posts: 20 Forumite
    This gives me hope! I will do as instructed on the stickied thread, and will update you in the future on how it goes.

    I apologise for being less than useful, but I really appreciate the time you have taken this evening to help me out with this. Thank you.
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 25 April 2016 at 10:50PM
    ja7ckal wrote: »
    But then I will have to pay £100 and not £60 right?

    No. The keeper is not liable and you would be appealing as keeper.

    http://www.almos.org.uk/members?page=2&

    Tower Hamlets Homes is an ALMO (Google it) which makes this land owned/managed by the London Borough of Tower Hamlets and so, this land is not 'relevant land' under the POFA 2012. I would certainly consider that to be the case and have argued it before re an ALMO.

    No keeper liability. So, of course the KEEPER appeals, not an admitted driver, nothing about 'I parked', nor 'I did this'.

    Even more important that you follow the NEWBIES thread and appeal using the template as registered keeper ONLY (twice, if two stage appeal before POPLA is required). Wait till the third week such that they'll definitely receive the appeal between day 22 and day 27, i.e. just before the 28 days is up but not earlier and not too late.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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  • pappa_golf
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    Coupon-mad wrote: »
    No. The keeper is not liable and you would be appealing as keeper.

    http://www.almos.org.uk/members?page=2&

    Tower Hamlets Homes is an ALMO (Google it) which makes this land owned/managed by the London Borough of Tower Hamlets and so, this land is not 'relevant land' under the POFA 2012. I would certainly consider that to be the case and have argued it before re an ALMO.

    No keeper liability. So, of course the KEEPER appeals, not an admitted driver, nothing about 'I parked', nor 'I did this'.

    Even more important that you follow the NEWBIES thread and appeal using the template as registered keeper ONLY (twice, if two stage appeal before POPLA is required). Wait till the third week such that they'll receive the appeal between day 22 and day 27, i.e. just before the 28 days is up but not earlier and not too late.


    knew that but was being sent around in circles ,


    nice one CM
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  • Ian011
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    pappa_golf wrote: »
    0843 and 0844 Business Numbers

    Calls from landlines to mobiles are typically charged between 1p and 13p per minute whilst calls from mobiles are billed at between 5p and 41p per minute depending upon the telecoms provider and the actual number called.
    Not sure where you have seen that, but it is very out of date.

    Since 1 July 2015, this applies:
    How much do calls to 084 and 087 numbers cost?

    Call costs for 084 and 087 numbers are split into two parts.

    There's an Access Charge set by and paid to the benefit of the caller's landline or mobile provider and a Service Charge paid to the benefit of the called party and their telecoms provider.

    The Access Charge can be up to 12p per minute from landlines or up to 45p per minute from mobiles. Your phone provider must list the details in their tariff lists.

    The Service Charge can be up to 7p per minute or per call for 084 numbers or up to 13p per minute or per call for 087 numbers. The organisation you are calling must declare the Service Charge in close proximity to the number everywhere it is advertised or promoted.
    See https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/contacting-08-and-03-numbers

    Additionally, the term "business rate numbers" no longer applies. These are simply non-geographic numbers with an additional Service Charge.
  • ja7ckal
    ja7ckal Posts: 20 Forumite
    This info is for Norther Ireland though, does it still apply?
  • Ian011
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    It applies in all of the UK.

    It just happens to be on an NI website.
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