Dog Fouling Fine

zaxdog

sacsquacco wrote: »

You certainly go around the world in a blinkered state if you dont think that EVERYONE hates cats roaming about their garden.My neighbour says hes going to purchase an air rifle as the ultimate deterrent.You cat owners are very selfish people when your hobby/substitute child/ transfers itself into me finding filthy cat excrement all over my garden.There is absolutely nothing I can do about it neither.I ve tried everything. I remember the famous Yorkshire cricketer, who lives not too far from me , Geoffry Boycott, being so apoplectic with rage about your damn cats , that he erected an electric fence which actually killed a cat lol..He was fined for that.Just remember, that unless YOUR cat is a 100% house cat then YOU are anti social and have "issues "yourself in selfishness. I am representative of the rest of us who dont have to rely on a pet. And IF it happens to be true that you confine your miniture killing machine to the house, then shame on you for subjecting a domestic animal to four walls like a zoo. The best thing for cat owners is to get rid of useless moggy and get a dog that likes a walk then it will provide you with much needed exercise. Cats are a complete nonentity and no value to the world whatsoever.

If your criminal neighbour shoots a cat then he will either face a fine or possible jail time (and hopefully karma will get him in a truly violent way).

I think perhaps it is time to get some help with your obvious anger issues. Contact your doctor maybe for some therapy?

Cat poop in the garden is a minor inconvenience and I speak as a keen gardener

tealady

Sasqacco, according to the RSPB website (an organisation I respect) there is no scientific evidence that cats are causing the decline in songbirds so please tel me where your evidence comes from so I can read it for myself.

System

sacsquacco wrote: »

You certainly go around the world in a blinkered state if you dont think that EVERYONE hates cats roaming about their garden.My neighbour says hes going to purchase an air rifle as the ultimate deterrent.You cat owners are very selfish people when your hobby/substitute child/ transfers itself into me finding filthy cat excrement all over my garden.There is absolutely nothing I can do about it neither.I ve tried everything. I remember the famous Yorkshire cricketer, who lives not too far from me , Geoffry Boycott, being so apoplectic with rage about your damn cats , that he erected an electric fence which actually killed a cat lol..He was fined for that.Just remember, that unless YOUR cat is a 100% house cat then YOU are anti social and have "issues "yourself in selfishness. I am representative of the rest of us who dont have to rely on a pet. And IF it happens to be true that you confine your miniture killing machine to the house, then shame on you for subjecting a domestic animal to four walls like a zoo. The best thing for cat owners is to get rid of useless moggy and get a dog that likes a walk then it will provide you with much needed exercise. Cats are a complete nonentity and no value to the world whatsoever.

CATastrophic over-reaction, I fear.



Sorry..

Paradigm

sacsquacco wrote: »

Cats are helping the decline and kill millions and millions of garden birds every year. People who keep cats that wander the streets are anti social.

It would seem the RSPB, with some specific exceptions, disagree with you...

It is likely that most of the birds killed by cats would have died anyway from other causes before the next breeding season, so cats are unlikely to have a major impact on populations.


Those bird species that have undergone the most serious population declines in the UK (such as skylarks, tree sparrows and corn buntings) rarely encounter cats, so cats cannot be causing their declines. Research shows that these declines are usually caused by habitat change or loss, particularly on farmland.
Populations of species that are most abundant in gardens tend to be increasing, despite the presence of cats. Blue tits, for example, the second most frequently caught birds, have increased by over a quarter across the UK since 1966.

http://www.rspb.org.uk/makeahomeforwildlife/advice/gardening/unwantedvisitors/cats/birddeclines.aspx

tealady

Paradigm thanks for the link. Is that your dog in your avatar? Looks a lovely slobber chops with a cute face.

Paradigm

tealady wrote: »

Is that your dog in your avatar? Looks a lovely slobber chops with a cute face.

Yes & he's exactly how you described him

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tealady wrote: »

Sasqacco, according to the RSPB website (an organisation I respect) there is no scientific evidence that cats are causing the decline in songbirds so please tel me where your evidence comes from so I can read it for myself.

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A quick Google of "how many birds do cats kill UK " got the number one google answer in 275 prey items and 55 million birds per year.Over in the USA its 3.7 BILLION. The RSPB is in my opinion and of many of my long term bird watcher friends is a charity which exists to fund its own workers jobs like all charities do. They are NOT the font of all knowledge about birds. None of my keen birder friends would nt dream about joining this charity which has donations mostly from cat owning old biddies in their wills, so they are not going to bite the hand that feeds them. Chris Packham is more likely to give you the correct answer about moggy s and their murdering antics in neighbours gardens.
For the benefit of the super touchy and utterly PC MSE forum team..Thanks for deleting the word "luvvie " !! why ?? up here in Yorkshire luv or luvvie is a term of endearment and that is how we refer to anyone, stranger or not.I certainly did nt take the slightest offence at Tealadys response of the word "darling ".I know you southerners are reknowned for being unfriendly, thanks for demonstrating it and it reminds me never to visit London again.

Money_saving_maniac

A link doesn't work for some reason, but check out https://www.songbird-survival.org.uk for the article Cats may have nine lives but mice don't.

26% of all predation was birds.

Cats have a huge impact on our wildlife.

To be honest RSPB is down there with the RSPCA as not being a particularly trustworthy organisation as it has its own specific agendas. Far too much money is spent on the pseudo science for global warming and if birds are not in a wetland, the RSPB aren't interested.

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Yes, 100% agree with Money saving Maniac..here is an example of how the RSPB money machine works.Bempton Cilffs is Englands premier sea bird colony where anyone can go and view the Puffins,Razorbills Guillemots and wonderful Gannets diving in the sea. The cliff top path above the colony is a free public footpath.Along comes big business in the shape of the RSPB who build a "shop " 200 yards away on the approach road and build a large car park with a pay and display charge of £7 with double yellow lines for the approach rd for miles before. Everyone now who wants to visit the formerly free cliff top spectacle has to pay the RSPB £7 .The local council are also in on it as their wardens are collecting parking fines for anyone who tries parking on the double yellows.This is how the RSPB work.They ve done nothing at all about the cliff sea bird colony but act like a protection racket extracting money from the public. Dont let this put anyone off from a visit to Bempton cliffs near Bridlington, just park up in their car park, ignore the pay and display and march through their useless overpriced shop and walk through the exit door and exercise your god given right to see the sea bird colony free.

UKTigerlily

A mistake it may be, but would you be so ok with it if a Grandchild had gone blind due to it? Chances are you'd be ranting about irresponsible dog owners! Hopefully now she will learn from the mistake. Her age has nothing at all to do with it, and as someone said, if the dog is offlead she should be watching it anyway! How would she know it wasn't running towards an on lead, antisocial dog like mine? Or about to send a kid flying? Or about to eat some poisoned meat etc etc

As for lying if we say we always pick up? I *always* pick up after my dog, who is on lead the whole time and walked on pavements. When I used to take her to the country park, I also always picked up, as does my friend whenever his (always offlead) dog goes.

No sympathy i'm afraid, at least now she won't do it again