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Dog Fouling Fine

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  • donnac2558
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    sacsquacco wrote: »
    Calling someone a "selfish scumbag " is every bit as disgusting as that ladies dog having a call of nature unbeknownst to her. I note you are a cat lover, so when was the last time YOU picked up your cats poo.My garden is a draw to wandering cats who deposit all over in a sneaky way compared to dogs but their excrement is a damn sight fouler than any dog. I have never heard of any cat owner picking up after their cat..the reason..they re not aware where they have deposited it..I really wish cat owners were stung with an £80 fine

    I pick up cat sh*t everyday. Its called a litter tray and I clean it out.

    Will say the dog was off the lead and woman chatting did not pay attention. She won't do it again
  • sheramber wrote: »
    The fine is set by the local council. If you think it is too high you could contact the local councillor
    about it.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/218807/dogcontrol-orders.pdf

    48 In connection with dog control order
    offences, authorised officers of primary
    and secondary authorities have the
    power to require the name and address
    of a person they wish to issue with a
    fixed penalty notice. In such cases failure
    to supply these details or to give a false
    name and address to an authorised
    officer is an offence for which a maximum
    fine of level 3 (currently £1000) on
    the standard scale may be given
    upon conviction.


    A high fine for not giving your details - so why would you then give them details?!


    I would just tell me no. There are no community police officers in the town and certainly no police constables so I would just walk off. Are they going to follow me?! What a load of crap.


    And yes my mum did go and pick it up. Would it not be more reasonable to notify an elderly woman that the dog had done a crap and give her the opportunity to pick it up before issuing the fine?

    All you people who claim to always pick up your dog mess are absolute liars. You're walking the dog in the country or a field and with no-one around, you still pick it up?! Rubbish.


    Final point, say it was two big guys walking a staffie - do you honestly think the dog warden would approach them? I doubt it. My mum was chosen because she was elderly and wouldn't put up a fight.
  • spadoosh
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    A high fine for not giving your details - so why would you then give them details?!


    I would just tell me no. There are no community police officers in the town and certainly no police constables so I would just walk off. Are they going to follow me?! What a load of crap.


    And yes my mum did go and pick it up. Would it not be more reasonable to notify an elderly woman that the dog had done a crap and give her the opportunity to pick it up before issuing the fine?

    All you people who claim to always pick up your dog mess are absolute liars. You're walking the dog in the country or a field and with no-one around, you still pick it up?! Rubbish.


    Final point, say it was two big guys walking a staffie - do you honestly think the dog warden would approach them? I doubt it. My mum was chosen because she was elderly and wouldn't put up a fight.

    Your mum was chosen because her dog had a carp and she didnt pick it up.

    There are some exclusions to 'always picking my dogs poo up' in that ive been on walks where it is acceptable to flick the turds into the under growth (and is the recommended practice). I also dont pick my dogs poo up straight away in the garden.

    Seems a bit daft to pick it up after the incident, she shouldve at least got her moneys worth and made them do it.

    Unfortunately your mum is in the wrong also unfortunate that ignorance isnt an acceptable excuse. Im sure she has learnt from this episode, i imagine its unlikely to happen again. A satisfactory outcome all round (apart from your mums purse, although if you feel its that unjust on her you could offer to pay it for her?!)
  • lush_walrus
    lush_walrus Posts: 1,975 Forumite
    Because people do not pick up dog poo I have spent every visit to the park with my daughters desperately watching wear they are running to. Every time they have taken a step I am making sure I am scanning the floor one step ahead of them everywhere they have ever walked. I have had to pay attention every time they have taken a step regardless of what friend I have met on the way.

    So personally I have no sympathy, pay attention and pick it up and no fine.
  • owlet
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    All you people who claim to always pick up your dog mess are absolute liars. You're walking the dog in the country or a field and with no-one around, you still pick it up?! Rubbish.

    Sorry to disillusion you but I actually do always pick up after my dog has pooped. I always have bags on me & even pick up in the garden. Nothing worse than treading in dog poop.

    Your Mum got caught fair and square - move on. If I stop to talk to someone while I'm out with my dog, I make sure she is on a short lead so I can see what she is up to. It's called being responsible!!
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  • suki1964
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    A high fine for not giving your details - so why would you then give them details?!


    I would just tell me no. There are no community police officers in the town and certainly no police constables so I would just walk off. Are they going to follow me?! What a load of crap.


    And yes my mum did go and pick it up. Would it not be more reasonable to notify an elderly woman that the dog had done a crap and give her the opportunity to pick it up before issuing the fine?

    All you people who claim to always pick up your dog mess are absolute liars. You're walking the dog in the country or a field and with no-one around, you still pick it up?! Rubbish.


    Final point, say it was two big guys walking a staffie - do you honestly think the dog warden would approach them? I doubt it. My mum was chosen because she was elderly and wouldn't put up a fight.

    I walk on farmland with my dog, and I pick up

    Dog poo can cause cows to miscarriage.
  • Person_one
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    The vast majority of dog owners pick up their poo, if they didn't you wouldn't be able to move for the stuff.

    There are situations where 'stick and flick' is more appropriate and is in fact recommended by some land owners and environmental organisations (google it) but in parks, on streets, public footpaths etc. there is no excuse for not picking it up.
  • Tyler_Du
    Tyler_Du Posts: 712 Forumite
    I was recently walking my dog around a local reservoir (used a lot my local families and walkers), I kept my dog on a lead while another couple with 2 dogs walking near me left them off the lead, one of their dogs did its business and the couple walked on and left it. I shouted and asked if they were going to pick up the dog mess, the reply came that they hadn't seen it and basically to F off. Had a warden been around I would have reported them.
  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 15 April 2016 at 2:11PM
    donnac2558 wrote: »
    I pick up cat sh*t everyday. Its called a litter tray and I clean it out.

    Will say the dog was off the lead and woman chatting did not pay attention. She won't do it again

    Good for you, and is your moggy confined to the house ?..No , you let it wander at will and you have no idea where it go s or what it does. You of course are the one in a million who monitors your cats nocturnal wanderings on to other people s property. For cat lovers to be critical of dog owners is definitely pot calling black and hypocritical in the extreme. Personally I dont have any pet and am neutral and not part of the war between the dog/cat fraternity but I am a garden bird lover and cats are an unnatural predator in the world and in reality they should nt be here decimating the bird population. I m seeing lots of feathers around my bird feeders all the time because of cats. Birds are declining at a huge rate because of modern farming and domestic cats are assisting hugely in the carnage. Your crutch/cat is nothing more than a murdering moggy and and an excrement dumper in my garden and not welcome. I wonder if the law allows me to dish out the same punishment that it did to a Starling yesterday ?
  • gabriel1980
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    Personally I don't pick up my dog's poo. It's a natural fertilizer. I'm not a child lover - but it's generally the parent's fault if they happen upon dog poo.
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