Dog Fouling Fine

GwylimT

gabriel1980 wrote: »

A high fine for not giving your details - so why would you then give them details?!


I would just tell me no. There are no community police officers in the town and certainly no police constables so I would just walk off. Are they going to follow me?! What a load of crap.


And yes my mum did go and pick it up. Would it not be more reasonable to notify an elderly woman that the dog had done a crap and give her the opportunity to pick it up before issuing the fine?

All you people who claim to always pick up your dog mess are absolute liars. You're walking the dog in the country or a field and with no-one around, you still pick it up?! Rubbish.


Final point, say it was two big guys walking a staffie - do you honestly think the dog warden would approach them? I doubt it. My mum was chosen because she was elderly and wouldn't put up a fight.

I have never walked my dog and failed to pick up his poo, my wife is disabled and can't pick it up, so she only takes the dog out if someone goes with her who can pick up his poo.

Rosemary7391

Owners have to take responsibility - "I didn't see it." and "I don't have a bag." are not sufficient, and the former (if genuine) raises concerns for what else the dog might be up to that isn't seen. Collectively, it is much less effort for dog owners to clean up than for every other person to have to devote attention to avoiding it for weeks.

I can't wait until these two things happen:
- All dogs are microchipped
- DNA testing is vaguely reliable/practicable/affordable

Then, dog wardens can simply clean up the mess, send it for testing, then send the fines (sufficient to cover costs and deter) to the relevant owner. They can also do spot checks for microchips. Then I might be able to walk down my street and look where I'm going instead of where I'm putting my feet! Compulsory chipping also ought to help prevent dogs being abandoned.

Feral_Moon

Sorry, but no sympathy on my behalf either. I detest people who don't clean up after their dogs. There's absolutely no excuse for it. Maybe she'll be more observant of her dog in future!

Person_one

Rosemary7391 wrote: »

Owners have to take responsibility - "I didn't see it." and "I don't have a bag." are not sufficient, and the former (if genuine) raises concerns for what else the dog might be up to that isn't seen. Collectively, it is much less effort for dog owners to clean up than for every other person to have to devote attention to avoiding it for weeks.

I can't wait until these two things happen:
- All dogs are microchipped
- DNA testing is vaguely reliable/practicable/affordable

Then, dog wardens can simply clean up the mess, send it for testing, then send the fines (sufficient to cover costs and deter) to the relevant owner. They can also do spot checks for microchips. Then I might be able to walk down my street and look where I'm going instead of where I'm putting my feet! Compulsory chipping also ought to help prevent dogs being abandoned.

Microchipping became compulsory this month in England and Scotland:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/dog-microchipping-laws-what-changes-7113932

Feral_Moon

Yes, all dogs are now legally traceable and dog wardens will be carrying scanners. As to the OP who blatantly admits to not poo picking herself, her days are numbered. Dog wardens/Police etc will have powers to impound unchipped dogs. And not before time.

So, if OP wants to be obstructive and not give details, the dog will be scanned for a chip and impounded if it hasn't got one. They'll get you one way or another. Either pay up or lose your beloved dog.

marlot

gabriel1980 wrote: »

...My elderly mum was out walking her dog and stopped to chat to a friend in a park. Unbeknownst to her, the dog did a poo without her noticing...

gabriel1980 wrote: »

...All you people who claim to always pick up your dog mess are absolute liars. You're walking the dog in the country or a field and with no-one around, you still pick it up?! Rubbish...

Any sympathy I had for your mother just evaporated. It sounds like you've both been littering the countryside with turds.

tealady

sacsquacco wrote: »

Personally I dont have any pet and am neutral and not part of the war between the dog/cat fraternity but I am a garden bird lover and cats are an unnatural predator in the world and in reality they should nt be here decimating the bird population. I m seeing lots of feathers around my bird feeders all the time because of cats. Birds are declining at a huge rate because of modern farming and domestic cats are assisting hugely in the carnage. Your crutch/cat is nothing more than a murdering moggy and and an excrement dumper in my garden and not welcome. I wonder if the law allows me to dish out the same punishment that it did to a Starling yesterday ?

Perhaps you should kill all the crows and magpies as well as they will eat eggs and nestlings

Oh and don't forget what the cuckoo does.

(Personally I like crows, magpies dogs cats and birds of prey.)

Kim_kim

sacsquacco wrote: »

Good for you, and is your moggy confined to the house ?..No , you let it wander at will and you have no idea where it go s or what it does. You of course are the one in a million who monitors your cats nocturnal wanderings on to other people s property. For cat lovers to be critical of dog owners is definitely pot calling black and hypocritical in the extreme. Personally I dont have any pet and am neutral and not part of the war between the dog/cat fraternity but I am a garden bird lover and cats are an unnatural predator in the world and in reality they should nt be here decimating the bird population. I m seeing lots of feathers around my bird feeders all the time because of cats. Birds are declining at a huge rate because of modern farming and domestic cats are assisting hugely in the carnage. Your crutch/cat is nothing more than a murdering moggy and and an excrement dumper in my garden and not welcome. I wonder if the law allows me to dish out the same punishment that it did to a Starling yesterday ?

My cat doesn't go out, so she's not murdering anything (except flies) or defacating anywhere.

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tomtontom wrote: »

Crikey, you've got some issues chap!

You certainly go around the world in a blinkered state if you dont think that EVERYONE hates cats roaming about their garden.My neighbour says hes going to purchase an air rifle as the ultimate deterrent.You cat owners are very selfish people when your hobby/substitute child/ transfers itself into me finding filthy cat excrement all over my garden.There is absolutely nothing I can do about it neither.I ve tried everything. I remember the famous Yorkshire cricketer, who lives not too far from me , Geoffry Boycott, being so apoplectic with rage about your damn cats , that he erected an electric fence which actually killed a cat lol..He was fined for that.Just remember, that unless YOUR cat is a 100% house cat then YOU are anti social and have "issues "yourself in selfishness. I am representative of the rest of us who dont have to rely on a pet. And IF it happens to be true that you confine your miniture killing machine to the house, then shame on you for subjecting a domestic animal to four walls like a zoo. The best thing for cat owners is to get rid of useless moggy and get a dog that likes a walk then it will provide you with much needed exercise. Cats are a complete nonentity and no value to the world whatsoever.

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tealady wrote: »

Perhaps you should kill all the crows and magpies as well as they will eat eggs and nestlings

Oh and don't forget what the cuckoo does.

(Personally I like crows, magpies dogs cats and birds of prey.)

You are showing your lack of knowledge.Carrion Crow/Rook/Magpie /Jay are all Corvids. They have been around for longer than mankind and are part of the eco system which NATURALLY regulates other birds.If they were not around we would be knee deep in blackbirds etc. which can have 12 young a year and only have to reproduce twice in their lifetime to keep the species alive..
The European Cuckoo is a sub saharan migrant which is sadly in a big decline. I doubt YOU will see or hear one this spring.Through intensive farming in the UK all song birds are in a big decline and we have even lost a few species the last 20 years as regular British breeders..And before you start..the decline of all British birds is nothing to do with what the idiots always say, that there are too many Magpies.They too are on the decline as are the chip snatching Herring Gulls.Cats are helping the decline and kill millions and millions of garden birds every year. People who keep cats that wander the streets are anti social.