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Government petition to make the parent receiving child maintenance provide receipts

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  • nearlyrich
    nearlyrich Posts: 13,698 Forumite
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    I can't agree with this I was a resident parent who's ex was a !!!!less muppet he never paid much and 9 times out of 10 he paid nothing. I work and at the time worked hard to ensure my children got what they needed and it was no-one's business but mine what I spent my money on wherever the money came from. I can see where you are coming from but just because you pay child support does not give you the right to control your ex, maybe that's why she is your ex??
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  • Teah1984
    Teah1984 Posts: 24 Forumite
    100% I would like to have my children with me permanently. Yes i am saying that the child maintenance I pay is not used for my children. I would not want my children's mother to be stressed out however why should I be funding her lifestyle and social life? If a pwc is receiving child maintenance and using that money for the benefit of the children then why would they have a problem providing receipts?? I work numerous hours and although it may sound cliche I prefer to spend my non working hours with my family and not out socialising although I must say there is nothing wrong with going out socially I just don't agree that child maintenance should fund these social activities that do not include the children. Why would a rp need to see where the nrp had taken the children that comment is completely off topic I am talking about payments being made to the rp to benefit and help the children involved being used for things that do not benefit the children
  • Teah1984
    Teah1984 Posts: 24 Forumite
    Under no circumstances should any one person be controlled by another and this is certainly not what this is about this is all about the child maintenance that is being paid being used correctly to benefit the children and not the rp
  • NYM
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    A child is part of a family, split or otherwise and doesn't need either parent arguing over the financial minutiae. How do you think the share of electric, gas, water, housing costs, clothing, food and so on, would be itemised?
    Why don't you want your Ex having a social life?
    Why does it matter to you?

    Address the personal issues you have before demanding your Ex should provide receipts for looking after YOUR child.
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    Teah1984 wrote: »
    100% I would like to have my children with me permanently. Yes i am saying that the child maintenance I pay is not used for my children. I would not want my children's mother to be stressed out however why should I be funding her lifestyle and social life? If a pwc is receiving child maintenance and using that money for the benefit of the children then why would they have a problem providing receipts?? I work numerous hours and although it may sound cliche I prefer to spend my non working hours with my family and not out socialising although I must say there is nothing wrong with going out socially I just don't agree that child maintenance should fund these social activities that do not include the children. Why would a rp need to see where the nrp had taken the children that comment is completely off topic I am talking about payments being made to the rp to benefit and help the children involved being used for things that do not benefit the children

    Just out of curiosity how much do you pay?
  • Teah1984
    Teah1984 Posts: 24 Forumite
    Obviously I am not going to disclose an amount but rest assured it is enough for my children to live comfortably and have clothes, shoes, food, gas,electric etc
  • missbiggles1
    missbiggles1 Posts: 17,481 Forumite
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    edited 8 April 2016 at 12:50PM
    Teah1984 wrote: »
    As a nrp working full time and having access to my children on a regular basis ie weekends, school holidays, Christmas etc when I pay child maintenance that money is to be spent on my children to get them clothes, shoes, food etc. Under no circumstances should CHILD maintenance be used for the residing parent to buy bottles of wine, have nights out just to be relaxed. Child maintenance is for the children involved. On the debate of receipts being shown why shouldn't the residing parent have to provide receipts to prove they are spending the maintenance on the children and not their own lifestyles. Why should a nrp go to work full time and be funding the pwc's social life with their hard earned money. I have said previously on a number of occasions to many people that I do not nor will I ever begrudge paying child maintenance for my children what I do begrudge is that I am effectively funding my ex partners social life and that is something that is not right!

    As long as the children are adequately supplied with "clothes shoes and food" how can you tell whether the money's coming from maintenance, PWC's earnings or benefits? If they're going without these essentials (and appropriate non essentials) then something needs to be done about it but that would indicate deliberate neglect and I can't see how receipts would help.
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    Teah1984 wrote: »
    Obviously I am not going to disclose an amount but rest assured it is enough for my children to live comfortably and have clothes, shoes, food, gas,electric etc

    Obviously? What's obvious about it?


    Let's take a look at expenses. - you said children, so i'll guess two - but feel free to correct.


    Rent - total £500-800 as an average
    Council Tax - £140 as an average
    Utilities - £150 as an average
    TV Licence - £12
    Internet - £15 (this may not be applicable)
    Food - £200-300
    Clothes - £40
    Shoes - £20
    Clubs - ? Upto £50


    So the minimum - is £1127. Now of course you shouldn't subsidise your exes living costs, so let's knock a 1/3 off. - That's £743.82 a month for the bare minimum.


    I would argue your ex is liable to half of that, but you said an I quote: rest assured it is enough for my children to live comfortably and have clothes, shoes, food, gas,electric etc


    So is it?
  • duchy
    duchy Posts: 19,511 Forumite
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    Teah1984 wrote: »
    It is the nrps business they are their children as well just because they do not reside with their children does not mean they do not have the right ask questions imo.

    It might be your opinion but ultimately giving someone who doesn't live with the child that kind of "control" would not be in the best interests of the child . If you wanted to control every aspect of the child's life perhaps you should have remained living with the child in one format or another.

    Could you imagine it ! A NRP dragging the PWC to court because she shopped at Aldi and he thinks his child should be fed on Waitrose food (or vice versa) or that they bought their child's school shoes from Clarks the NRP thinks Primark was good enough. Utterly ridiculous idea - could only have been thought up by a control freak. If a child is genuinely deprived and not being fed , clothed, housed by the PWC there are already processes in place to correct this -anything else is the PWC's decision.

    Amazing how many women suddenly become terrible and neglectful people as soon as child support is payable - wouldn't you think the partner would have thought about this before conceiving a child with this person.....or even have gone for custody if they genunely believed it (and a court would see this neglect and grant it).

    This petition smacks of using the child to try and control an ex partner - Very unhealthy.
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  • Teah1984
    Teah1984 Posts: 24 Forumite
    yes the money I pay in child maintenance is enough to have my children clothed, fed, a roof over their heads, Sky, gas, electric even days out. All I am saying is that the money that is paid should directly benefit the children. In my own case the expenditure is broken down as the rp does not work therefore pays very little rent council tax etc and also lives with her partner who works full time who again I get on with amicably. My point is that child maintenance should directly benefit the children involved
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