Hit & Run my parked car. One independent witness. Best way to deal.

Hermione_Granger

When you apply to the police for information, you are asking for information from their system (the PNC).
Because of this, there are may hurdles to get through before information can be released from this system as it falls under the requirements of the DPA and even police access is very controlled nowadays.
You can submit a request for information held about yourself by submitting a subject access request, (Form SAR1) and there is a fee of £10 but this by its very name, it is info relating to the subject (or person making the application.)

The DVLA will release information about 3rd party owned vehicles on submission of the required paperwork, but again, there is a charge for this of £2.50

So even if the police did release the details of the registered keeper, this would cost £10 as opposed to the DVLA doing exactly the same for only a quarter of the price.

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Hermione_Granger wrote: »

When you apply to the police for information, you are asking for information from their system (the PNC).
Because of this, there are may hurdles to get through before information can be released from this system as it falls under the requirements of the DPA and even police access is very controlled nowadays.
You can submit a request for information held about yourself by submitting a subject access request, (Form SAR1) and there is a fee of £10 but this by its very name, it is info relating to the subject (or person making the application.)

The DVLA will release information about 3rd party owned vehicles on submission of the required paperwork, but again, there is a charge for this of £2.50

So even if the police did release the details of the registered keeper, this would cost £10 as opposed to the DVLA doing exactly the same for only a quarter of the price.

You see you're hiding behind the data protection act. The op doesn't want information about himself but wants keeper details following a collision. The road traffic act states he is allowed it so I'll ask you again how can the police legally refuse this information and refer him to the DVLA?

Hermione_Granger

Silver-Surfer wrote: »

You see you're hiding behind the data protection act. The op doesn't want information about himself but wants keeper details following a collision. The road traffic act states he is allowed it so I'll ask you again how can the police legally refuse this information and refer him to the DVLA?

The road traffic does indeed state that the info can be released but it doesn't state who has to release it.
The DVLA are the government department that deals with this.
The UK government state this:
https://www.gov.uk/request-information-from-dvla

You can request details of a vehicle’s registered keeper and certain other information from DVLA if you have ‘reasonable cause’. You can also request information held by DVLA about you.

and the ICO state this:
https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/dvla/

You said that this information can be obtained from the police for free.
That is incorrect.
Even if the police were to agree to release the information then they can legally charge you (and their SAR fee is £10 which is four times the cost of getting the same data from the DVLA)

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Hermione_Granger wrote: »

The road traffic does indeed state that the info can be released but it doesn't state who has to release it.
The DVLA are the government department that deals with this.
The UK government state this:
https://www.gov.uk/request-information-from-dvla

and the ICO state this:
https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/dvla/

You said that this information can be obtained from the police for free.
That is incorrect.
Even if the police were to agree to release the information then they can legally charge you (and their SAR fee is £10 which is four times the cost of getting the same data from the DVLA)

Is this something you have personal experience of, do you work for the police or something?

The police can and do give you this information.

Yes the can legally charge you but don't.

Hermione_Granger

No, I don't work for the police and never have done but my hubby works for the Met as a Custody nurse.

Whilst it is correct that it used to be easy to get RK details from the police, this has changed dramatically in the past few years now that every single log in to the PNC has to be recorded and officer accessing it can be called upon to justify their reason for doing so.
Because of this, it's not just a case of sending a letter or turning up at the desk and asking for the details.
Any such requests will now receive the response that you should contact the DVLA and submit the request form to them.

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Hermione_Granger wrote: »

No, I don't work for the police and never have done but my hubby works for the Met as a Custody nurse. Front line cutting edge then he'll know all about this.

Whilst it is correct that it used to be easy to get RK details from the police, this has changed dramatically in the past few years now that every single log in to the PNC has to be recorded and officer accessing it can be called upon to justify their reason for doing so.It always has been audited and there is a genuine access reason here.
Because of this, it's not just a case of sending a letter or turning up at the desk and asking for the details.The op would be reporting criminal offences, not just turning up.
Any such requests will now receive the response that you should contact the DVLA and submit the request form to them.Really, says who? Current instructions are to deal with issues not fob the public off on a call for service.

No doubt you'll keep arguing blindly.

Hermione_Granger

Silver-Surfer wrote: »

Front line cutting edge then he'll know all about this.

Well, considering that he spends the majority of work time mixing and talking to the "front line" staff, I'm fairly sure that he has a much better insight into what actually happens in real life compared to someone who gets all of their information from Google and as you've shown on other threads, sometimes manages to get their advice wrong.

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Hermione_Granger wrote: »

Well, considering that he spends the majority of work time mixing and talking to the "front line" staff, I'm fairly sure that he has a much better insight into what actually happens in real life compared to someone who gets all of their information from Google and as you've shown on other threads, sometimes manages to get their advice wrong.

He's a nurse in custody. Surely most of his time is spent with the customers? We all know how the met are a shining example to the rest of the country. The force that won't deal with your stolen vehicle if another force arrests the offenders.

lazer

It is very easy to claim the excess of the TP insurer.


In my case, I claimed via my own insurance, used their approved repairer, and paid the garage the excess.


Sent a letter with the garage receipt to the TP insurer to recover the excess and they send me a cheque for it.

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lazer wrote: »

It is very easy to claim the excess of the TP insurer.


In my case, I claimed via my own insurance, used their approved repairer, and paid the garage the excess.


Sent a letter with the garage receipt to the TP insurer to recover the excess and they send me a cheque for it.

Providing they accept liability it is.