teacher refused a pupil a toilet visit

Person_one

catkins wrote: »

Try going to the cinema and see how many times some people have to go in and out (presumably to the loo). I don't know how some of them manage to follow the plot.


Of course, some people have small or overactive bladders but I can't believe so many people do. Cinemas, theatres, concerts etc people in and out practically non stop. I assume none of them have a job where they can't pop to the loo every half hour such as bus driver

I don't know why you'd assume that. I quite regularly go 13 hours at work without going to the toilet, but that's largely because I don't have time to have a drink in those 13 hours either! (Its massively unhealthy and I'm not proud of it, its just an unfortunate reality most days.)

When I go to the cinema, I deliberately sit on an aisle so that I can pop out to the loo if I want to without disturbing people, some films these days are three hours long! I drink gallons of water and go when I want to go as long as its appropriate (so cinema not theatre, wedding reception not wedding ceremony etc!)

I also try to remember that even if people seem to be going in and out to the toilet when it isn't particularly appropriate, there can be reasons for that so I shouldn't judge. Urological and bowel conditions, stomas etc.

heuchera

Ha ha catkins, I'd think it's due to the enormous bucket-sized fizzy drinks that certain types of people choose to consume when they go to the cinema. I don't think they'd do that in a school.


I go to an arthouse cinema, on the odd occasion I do go, not to one of the chavvy mainstream ones, and people rarely leave the auditorium when the film is showing.

Andypandyboy

You should try waching rugby. People amaze me by how many times they get up and go, a lot seem to miss 25% of the game.

pigpen

Andypandyboy wrote: »

You should try waching rugby. People amaze me by how many times they get up and go, a lot seem to miss 25% of the game.

and the rest just pee in their empty drinks cans/bottles and put them by the side or under their seat!

mandragora_2

'Please miss, can I go to the toilet?'

I run a couple of quick mental checks:
Do you have a medical condition that I know about? Yes? 'Off you go. Straight there, straight back, please.'
Have you asked me in other lessons this year, or is this a one off? Have you been working hard in the lesson up until now? One off/working hard?' Off you go. Straight there, straight back, please.'
Have you gone a bit red/flushed/agitated/do you look different to normal? 'Off you go. Straight there, straight back, please.'
Have I just changed activity and now you're expected to get on with something a bit harder like writing? Do I think you're trying to skive? 'Ask me again in five minutes. Get on with that now, though, please'
Have you asked me again in five minutes and are now looking a bit worried? 'Off you go. Straight there, straight back, please.'
Have you forgotten about it for half an hour, and then we again get to something you don't much fancy doing? 'Hmmmm; let's see how much work you've done. Well, finish off x/y/z and then we'll see'
Are you a regular WC botherer? Straight to 'Hmmmm; let's see how much work you've done. Well, finish off x/y/z and then we'll see.' Then 'Well, it's only five minutes till the bell. Can you hang on? If not, off you pop, but you'll have to stay in for at least five minutes in break so that you don't miss out on any of your learning'

The regular WC botherers don't seem to persist much after the first week in October...

smallholdingsister

Mandragora can I pinch that for my trainees please?

In the voice of Clara from Dr Who.

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Darksparkle wrote: »

So what if you take a sudden tummy upset or need to be sick? Would you just do it in the classroom?

I suppose so .... :eek: I'm guessing that you wouldn't have an issue next time you asked to go though .....

Kaye1

mandragora wrote: »

'Please miss, can I go to the toilet?'

I run a couple of quick mental checks:
Do you have a medical condition that I know about? Yes? 'Off you go. Straight there, straight back, please.'
Have you asked me in other lessons this year, or is this a one off? Have you been working hard in the lesson up until now? One off/working hard?' Off you go. Straight there, straight back, please.'
Have you gone a bit red/flushed/agitated/do you look different to normal? 'Off you go. Straight there, straight back, please.'
Have I just changed activity and now you're expected to get on with something a bit harder like writing? Do I think you're trying to skive? 'Ask me again in five minutes. Get on with that now, though, please'
Have you asked me again in five minutes and are now looking a bit worried? 'Off you go. Straight there, straight back, please.'
Have you forgotten about it for half an hour, and then we again get to something you don't much fancy doing? 'Hmmmm; let's see how much work you've done. Well, finish off x/y/z and then we'll see'
Are you a regular WC botherer? Straight to 'Hmmmm; let's see how much work you've done. Well, finish off x/y/z and then we'll see.' Then 'Well, it's only five minutes till the bell. Can you hang on? If not, off you pop, but you'll have to stay in for at least five minutes in break so that you don't miss out on any of your learning'

The regular WC botherers don't seem to persist much after the first week in October...

Brilliant.

mum2one

mandragora wrote: »

'Please miss, can I go to the toilet?'

I run a couple of quick mental checks:
Do you have a medical condition that I know about? Yes? 'Off you go. Straight there, straight back, please.'
Have you asked me in other lessons this year, or is this a one off? Have you been working hard in the lesson up until now? One off/working hard?' Off you go. Straight there, straight back, please.'
Have you gone a bit red/flushed/agitated/do you look different to normal? 'Off you go. Straight there, straight back, please.'
Have I just changed activity and now you're expected to get on with something a bit harder like writing? Do I think you're trying to skive? 'Ask me again in five minutes. Get on with that now, though, please'
Have you asked me again in five minutes and are now looking a bit worried? 'Off you go. Straight there, straight back, please.'
Have you forgotten about it for half an hour, and then we again get to something you don't much fancy doing? 'Hmmmm; let's see how much work you've done. Well, finish off x/y/z and then we'll see'
Are you a regular WC botherer? Straight to 'Hmmmm; let's see how much work you've done. Well, finish off x/y/z and then we'll see.' Then 'Well, it's only five minutes till the bell. Can you hang on? If not, off you pop, but you'll have to stay in for at least five minutes in break so that you don't miss out on any of your learning'

The regular WC botherers don't seem to persist much after the first week in October...

thats the sensible approach, we need more teachers like you x

mandragora_2

Thanks! I have been doing the job a (very!) long time, and I think it takes a while to work out a system that works for you.

Please feel free to use/amend/share smallholdingsister - my pleasure. The one that's the most use, other than obvious dire emergencies is 'Ask me again in five minutes'. (The other obvious one, when you get requests from multiple parties is 'Well, when little Jimmy gets back, ask me then'. )