teacher refused a pupil a toilet visit

foolofbeans

heuchera wrote: »

Bear in mind, people, that in some workplaces grown adults have to ask to go to the toilet! Call centres, amazon warehouses, factory work, etc. Employers can be very draconian, but again, it's because some workers hate the job and want to skive off for a few minutes.

I worked in a call centre and breaks away from the telephone were monitored, anything more than 10 minutes a day resulted in being called to the managers office :eek:

System

peachyprice wrote: »

She's in y8, she's 12/13 years old. She has been there long enough to know that she should go to between lessons and she's old enough to understand that.

Teachers are not monsters, in my experience if a child is obviously ill they will let them go, if a girl is obviously in menstrual distress they will let her go. Any other pee-requirements can wait until the end of the lesson.

Lets face it, if there was absolutely no need to go before the start of the lesson (otherwise she wold have gone, wouldn't she?) the need to pee isn't going to be that urgent 20-30 mins later that she can't wait another 20-30 mins.

I had a teacher who refused to me me go mid lesson, i need to go as i had very heavy periods and ended up leaking my mum had to bring me a change of clothes. Even changing pads at breaktimes didn't help as i got through them so quickly.

So i can understand why kids might NEED to leave during lesson time

Jojo_the_Tightfisted

Person_one wrote: »

The way some kids act in the toilets can be exactly the reason some of the meeker kids, or those who are targets for bullies, don't feel able to go at breaks.

Nobody should be denied the right to empty their bladder if they genuinely need to, it's not OK because they're 'only' teenagers.

As long as they're happy to accept being blamed when the fire alarm is set off for the eighth time in three days because they're out of class at the time...

The incidences of desperate need to go to the loo right now dropped by over 90% once students had to wait for the on call senior teacher (no choice about gender, it's whoever is on call) to come and collect them from the class, escort them to the toilets, wait outside whilst they do what they need to and then walk them back to the class. And the fire alarms stopped being triggered several times a day. One set of toilets were vandalised the day before the rule changed, so they're still closed and the others are being used more often, but they seem to be in better condition for longer, as nobody is in there bored and able to pull the sinks off the wall, draw hopelessly optimistic images of genitalia or have a cigarette without standing a high risk of there being a member of staff outside within five minutes. Truancy from lessons has dropped dramatically as well, as they can't get out of the class to go walkabouts in the first place.

Nobody has wet themselves, thrown up over the floor or been forced to sit in blood soaked clothing since then. Because they generally manage to perform their controllable bodily functions at times when they are not required to be in class, just as the staff do.

Jagraf

It's funny how 13 year olds can sit for hours on their play stations and in front if the TV without needing the loo but are desperate twice an hour during lessons.

The majority of children normally don't need the toilet that often - everyone knows that. It's not about health issues in the main.

GwylimT

I assume parents wouldn't mind if their child was left unattended in a classroom with thirty other children while the teacher used a toilet then?

If a secondary school pupil isn't capable of drinking sensible amounts and toileting themselves appropriately during break and lunch then I would assume parents would take them to the doctors to see if anything isn't working correctly.

Person_one

heuchera wrote: »

Bear in mind, people, that in some workplaces grown adults have to ask to go to the toilet! Call centres, amazon warehouses, factory work, etc. Employers can be very draconian, but again, it's because some workers hate the job and want to skive off for a few minutes.

I find that unacceptable too.

Yes, in some jobs you need to arrange for someone to take over while you're away, or stop a continuous process of some sort while you go, but that should just be logistics, not a requirement for permission.

System

I am a teacher. Females can go (for obvious reasons/less likely to cause trouble/wonder off); males can't for the exact opposite reason.

missbiggles1

andydownes123 wrote: »

I am a teacher. Females can go (for obvious reasons/less likely to cause trouble/wonder off); males can't for the exact opposite reason.

I really hope you aren't a teacher because this makes no sense whatsoever. (And I assume you mean wander.)

Jagraf

andydownes123 wrote: »

I am a teacher. Females can go (for obvious reasons/less likely to cause trouble/wonder off); males can't for the exact opposite reason.

:eek::eek: are you really a teacher?

foolofbeans

Kaye1 wrote: »

It always really annoys me when people say, 'well I can do x, y, z, so why can't you?'
And if you can hold your pee for any amount of time- lucky you!

I was not showing off when I stated I used to not go to the toilet all day at work, merely showing that you can train your bladder to work better.
I am mainly at home during the day now so have got used to going to the loo every hour and it causes issues when out for the day as I'm constantly looking for a toilet. I never like going to the toilet while out as I usually have two little ones with me and it's always a dilemma on what do I do with them while I go?
Due to this thread I shall train my bladder again so I can go at least for a few hours without peeing! Best thing to do though - pelvic floor exercises.